Jaguars amphitheater, flex field construction to begin next month

Started by paul_bcb, March 17, 2016, 12:52:52 PM



thelakelander

Quote from: KenFSU on August 19, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
Ampitheather/covered flex field will be called Daily's Place.

New video renderings:

http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/videos/Dailys-Place-official-video-renderings/af0c5d74-55fa-43eb-82f6-096f1dc8e289

Projected open for both facilities is May of next year.

Khan is shooting for an NFL Draft in Jacksonville, and has his sights set next on an upscale hotel and convention center across from the stadium.

Interesting. The only way this happens is if he pays for it. I definitely don't see the city coming up with the cash for a hotel or convention center at Metropolitan Park. If he does, more power to him because it would be a great example of putting his money where his mouth is on something that typically is a money loser.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

JaGoaT

The sports district is about to explode with growth.
I predict Khan is working a developing a roof for ever bank field as wel

finehoe

"Convention Center across the highway"  Does this mean in the vicinity of Metropolitan Park?  That would be making the same mistake as the first time around.  Too far from downtown and nothing to do around it.

RattlerGator

Too far from downtown and nothing to do around it? That's called opportunity, finehoe. If you're equating this development with Metropolitan Park then you're working far too hard to *not* see the possibilities. It took tremendous creativity to see *this* possibility, and now it will soon be a reality.

finehoe

Quote from: RattlerGator on August 19, 2016, 01:21:30 PM
Too far from downtown and nothing to do around it? That's called opportunity, finehoe. If you're equating this development with Metropolitan Park then you're working far too hard to *not* see the possibilities. It took tremendous creativity to see *this* possibility, and now it will soon be a reality.

I'm not equating it with the park, I'm equating it with the current location of the CC.  It's just as far away from the heart of downtown as the Prime Osborn is, and the area around it is equally as devoid of life.

What 'opportunity' arose around 1000 Water St. over the last 30 years?

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: finehoe on August 19, 2016, 01:38:05 PM

I'm not equating it with the park, I'm equating it with the current location of the CC.  It's just as far away from the heart of downtown as the Prime Osborn is, and the area around it is equally as devoid of life.

Just as far, without a transit connection. All the elements of success  ;)

Seriously though, I would love for Khan to make something happen but I fear even if he were to put up 100% of the cost himself I'd still worry that he was wasting his resources at this juncture. Downtown needs more vibrancy driven by clustering around what we already have happening organically. Unless he can single-handedly bring a few dozen new corporations + jobs tied to this development, and ten thousand new downtown residents, then such an attempt will flounder for years. I'm not hoping to see anyone, whether a broke city govt or a wealthy billionaire, waste away tens of millions of dollars. I am a fan of Khan and will roll with him til I have obvious reason to lose faith, but I would much rather him be the saviour of the Barnett Building and Laura Trio than some new stadium/convention district.

spuwho

I wonder how close this came to being "Gate Theater"?

6 more months it have been "Wawa Theater"

thelakelander

Quote from: finehoe on August 19, 2016, 01:07:06 PM
"Convention Center across the highway"  Does this mean in the vicinity of Metropolitan Park?  That would be making the same mistake as the first time around.  Too far from downtown and nothing to do around it.
Pretty much. Unless the plan is to create a second node of activity to compete head to head with the actual historic core a mile west. Long term (like 30 to 40 years from now), perhaps enough infill will occur to where the transition between the two is seamless.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

KenFSU

Quote
Interesting. The only way this happens is if he pays for it. I definitely don't see the city coming up with the cash for a hotel or convention center at Metropolitan Park. If he does, more power to him because it would be a great example of putting his money where his mouth is on something that typically is a money loser.

Not sure where the city gets the money, but if he follows his recent pattern and puts down half the cost himself, it's a tough proposition to say no to, even if it makes much more sense in the CBD.

KenFSU

Quote from: JaGoaT on August 19, 2016, 12:52:09 PM
The sports district is about to explode with growth.
I predict Khan is working a developing a roof for ever bank field as wel

It's something the team has previously discussed as a future possibility.





Seems like it's fallen off the priority list, and I doubt they'd get much city funding for such a thing.

thelakelander

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on August 19, 2016, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: finehoe on August 19, 2016, 01:38:05 PM

I'm not equating it with the park, I'm equating it with the current location of the CC.  It's just as far away from the heart of downtown as the Prime Osborn is, and the area around it is equally as devoid of life.

Just as far, without a transit connection. All the elements of success  ;)

Seriously though, I would love for Khan to make something happen but I fear even if he were to put up 100% of the cost himself I'd still worry that he was wasting his resources at this juncture. Downtown needs more vibrancy driven by clustering around what we already have happening organically. Unless he can single-handedly bring a few dozen new corporations + jobs tied to this development, and ten thousand new downtown residents, then such an attempt will flounder for years. I'm not hoping to see anyone, whether a broke city govt or a wealthy billionaire, waste away tens of millions of dollars. I am a fan of Khan and will roll with him til I have obvious reason to lose faith, but I would much rather him be the saviour of the Barnett Building and Laura Trio than some new stadium/convention district.

He can follow the path of Dan Gilbert and Michael Ilitch in Detroit, move Flex-N-Gate's headquarters to town and include a live downtown incentive program for his employees to stimulate things. Throw in a Flex-N-Gate factory or two for the Northside or Westside and we'd certainly drop our panties and give up the goodies for such a sugar daddy ;).
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

KenFSU

^Legit laughed out loud at that last line, causing looks amongst my fellow coworkers.

Also, love how smartly integrated this is with the existing stadium infrastructure:

QuoteDaily's Place will be fully integrated into EverBank Field. At the ground level, the new south end zone field tunnel will lead to a brand new central bar connected to the amphitheater entrance. The existing Bud Light Party Zone and Terrace Suite areas will now be linked to the amphitheater's elevated seating decks via access bridges at each level.

jaxjaguar

The design is significantly less striking than the previous renderings. The building is more of a box now vs the flowing/sweeping shape it had before. Looks like a lot of the frills and decorative pieces were removed, but it still looks nice. I just don't think it'll be an iconic venue from a design perspective anymore... The integration into the stadium is awesome. If they host concerts pre game like they did last year I could see us having sell outs purely for the value.