Sweet Pete's Marcus Lemonis wants to tear down historic DT Building

[AuditoreEnterprise]

$300,000 for a building is code for "he bought the lot"......

Just cause the structure is reinforced concrete doesn't mean the miscellaneous steel, ie stairs, are safe. Or wood internal structures.......or masonry structures. They used a lot of clay tile back then. Sometimes for floor slabs.


Or for example before they renovated the St James building the sidewalk had large areas were the concrete had spalled off the bottom of the sidewalk into the basement. A typical water intrusion rusty rebar condition.  It exposed the reinforcing. Exposed reinforcing is not so much reinforcing the structure any more and getting unsafe.  Brick falling off the building tells me it has water problems and the ties are failing. They are little but one water problem usually leads to another.

In Jacksonville if you build a building you have to provide parking. In Houston same thing. But here there is no room so you see a lot of multi story garages. Apartment complexes often have structural steel with bar joist 2 or 3 story garages attached to the most modest of apartment buildings. They usually have pretty front screens and not so much pretty sides and backs.  The green space could be.................

Thanks for clearing this up for everyone. Though I'm sure most of the people on here would still like to invest millions into this building to save it rather than develop it into something new or greenspace.

On the topic of parking.... Does the 220 riverside / fresh market center / brooklyn riverside area have a garage or will it be surface parking? When I ride my bike past there it seems like a lot of "stuff" with little parking space, ala Publix at 5 points. Is there a plan for a possible garage in the future?

Is this based on your experience buying and renovating historic commercial real estate?  Or just talking out of the usual gas release valve?

Solely based on the fact we both know you have been around for a while... I think you already know the answer to that question. If there were some form of an all knowing historic renovations contractor with tons of experience I think there would be a lot more renovation projects going on down there.

+1

A little retraining of our contracting communities and a solid program of work study and on the job consulting by the Historic Preservation Commission for a few years actually working in the field on projects would go a long way.  There is no argument about that.

could not have said it better myself.

[thelakelander]

Development today: Sweet Pete's receives permit to demolish three floors at Hogan Street site
Full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=543559

[Tacachale]

What? How was this missed? What are they demolishing?

[thelakelander]

400 Hogan is the Seminole Club. I assume it must be either interior demolition or the rear addition?

[Tacachale]

^Yeah, I typed that evidently as soon as you were. I'm thinking it's the interior demolition; they'd lose a lot of footage if they lost the adjacent addition, unless they were going to build a new one.

[coredumped]

Can't be anything too major for only $35,000.

[river4340]

You have to have some demolition with the renovations they're doing. I'm sure that's all it is.

[jaxjaguar]

Anyone have any updates on this? Last I heard they were planning event space next door, but it seems like all movement has ceased and they're more focused on national branding...

[thelakelander]

He decided not to do this. This project is dead.