Libertarians to have first state wide 3rd party primary in FL since 1920

Started by FSBA, June 22, 2016, 02:53:33 PM

FSBA

http://ballot-access.org/2016/06/21/florida-will-hold-first-statewide-primary-for-a-party-other-than-democratic-or-republican/

QuoteFlorida will hold a statewide primary for the Libertarian Party on August 30, for U.S. Senate. The candidates are Augustus Invictus and Paul Stanton.
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Tacachale

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

FSBA

At best Invictus is a nut who has been denounced by pretty much every state, local, and national LP official who has been asked to comment on it. At worst there are some interesting ties he has to notorious "GOP hitman" and Trump staffer Roger Stone.
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Adam White

So, the State of Florida is going to hold a primary election for the so-called "Libertarian" party? I wonder how these "libertarians" feel about wasting public money on picking their candidate? Surely there must be a private option that is more efficient and costs less...
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FSBA

Quote from: Adam White on June 22, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
So, the State of Florida is going to hold a primary election for the so-called "Libertarian" party? I wonder how these "libertarians" feel about wasting public money on picking their candidate? Surely there must be a private option that is more efficient and costs less...

We would've loved to nominate our candidate at our state convention a few months ago but we legally can't.
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Adam White

Quote from: FSBA on June 22, 2016, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 22, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
So, the State of Florida is going to hold a primary election for the so-called "Libertarian" party? I wonder how these "libertarians" feel about wasting public money on picking their candidate? Surely there must be a private option that is more efficient and costs less...

We would've loved to nominate our candidate at our state convention a few months ago but we legally can't.

Why not? Plenty of third parties nominate their candidates at conventions. What law requires the "Libertarian" party to have a state primary - and if they cannot legally nominate a candidate without a state primary, how did they manage to run candidates in the past?

Edit: the article says that technically all parties nominate via primary if they have two or more candidates - are you saying that Florida law requires this?
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FSBA

Quote from: Adam White on June 22, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: FSBA on June 22, 2016, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: Adam White on June 22, 2016, 05:12:44 PM
So, the State of Florida is going to hold a primary election for the so-called "Libertarian" party? I wonder how these "libertarians" feel about wasting public money on picking their candidate? Surely there must be a private option that is more efficient and costs less...

We would've loved to nominate our candidate at our state convention a few months ago but we legally can't.

Why not? Plenty of third parties nominate their candidates at conventions. What law requires the "Libertarian" party to have a state primary - and if they cannot legally nominate a candidate without a state primary, how did they manage to run candidates in the past?

Edit: the article says that technically all parties nominate via primary if they have two or more candidates - are you saying that Florida law requires this?

Yes.

100.061 Primary election.—In each year in which a general election is held, a primary election for nomination of candidates of political parties shall be held on the Tuesday 10 weeks prior to the general election. The candidate receiving the highest number of votes cast in each contest in the primary election shall be declared nominated for such office. If two or more candidates receive an equal and highest number of votes for the same office, such candidates shall draw lots to determine which candidate is nominated.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0100-0199/0100/Sections/0100.061.html
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coredumped

Exciting times for libertarians, CNN is holding a town hall right now. It's the only party increasing in size, the big 2 dysfunctional dinosaur parties are falling apart.

Glad the message is getting out.
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Tacachale

Things seem to be shaping up for the party, but then again, Augustus Sol Invictus.

Even Trump never sacrificed a goat.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

coredumped

Yeah, Augustus is definitely embarrassing, but every party has them.
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finehoe

Quote from: coredumped on June 22, 2016, 10:11:49 PM
Glad the message is getting out.

Does the libertarian idealism of assuming that people are all naturally good and rational, weighing long term benefits for all against personal short term gains, serve the public interest?  Is it realistic?

coredumped

What would you prefer? Prior restraint? Secret government lists to take away Constitutional rights without due process? Continued intervention in foreign affairs?
All those things they oppose and have costs thousands of American lives, and billions of dollars.

And libertarians were the first party to support gay marriage, long before liberals jumped on board.
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Adam White

Quote from: coredumped on June 23, 2016, 08:43:56 AM
What would you prefer? Prior restraint? Secret government lists to take away Constitutional rights without due process? Continued intervention in foreign affairs?
All those things they oppose and have costs thousands of American lives, and billions of dollars.

And libertarians were the first party to support gay marriage, long before liberals jumped on board.

Socialists were supporting gay marriage (and gay rights in general) long before the "Libertarian" party even existed.
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JBTripper

Come again? I thought Johnson/Weld were already on the Libertarian ticket for president?

Adam White

Quote from: JBTripper on June 23, 2016, 09:56:25 AM
Come again? I thought Johnson/Weld were already on the Libertarian ticket for president?

It's for a Senate seat.
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