New Development coming to Brooklyn's Park Street?

[tpot]

My observation from living in JAX for almost 7 years, and generally speaking......the city does not support historic properties/preservation.......look at all the vacant lots in downtown JAX and its lack of attention to its oldest neighborhood, Springfield. I feel like the nail in the coffin is the fact that JAX encompasses all of Duval county.....the majority of these residents IMO do not support a strong downtown...........

[ProjectMaximus]

Brooklyn was given the opportunity to vote for Historic designation a couple years ago, right? I mean granted that was AFTER 75% of the hood was demolished but anyway they did have the opportunity.

[Kay]

Are you freaking kidding me!  That's a terrible use for Park St. 

A person that owns property on Lee st. has mentioned a Multi Story Storage Unit Business Building.

[Tacachale]

Maybe RAP could have a look. It's right in their backyard.

[mtraininjax]

the city does not support historic properties/preservation.......look at all the vacant lots in downtown JAX and its lack of attention to its oldest neighborhood, Springfield.

There are a number of building huggers out here, they will be right over to surround the condemned buildings in Springfield. Vacant lots downtown? That is called progress, sir.

Maybe RAP could have a look. It's right in their backyard.

Yeah, sorry, their jurisdiction ends at I-10 and I-95, you need to go back to the city to look for a guy wielding a club, preferably someone on the 3rd floor of the Ed Ball Building.

Brooklyn was given the opportunity to vote for Historic designation a couple years ago, right?

Sure the two homeless guys who lived in the shacks on Park and Jackson Street flipped for it and the loser has not been seen in years.

[vicupstate]

Mtrain, how is a vacant lot an improvement over an empty building?   If vacant lots were a sign of prosperity, Jacksonville and Detroit would be America's most prosperous cities.

There has been far more renovation done in Springfield than new construction over the last few decades.  Probably would have been a lot more if so many hadn't been torn down. 

Organic development of new businesses is far more likely to occur where a buildings only need some updating ( or just an occupant) as opposed to building new from the ground up.

You really need to get out more. Ever been to Savannah or Charleston? New Orleans? Heck, any place besides JAX? 

I don't recall a vote being taken to make Brooklyn a historic district, but it would be closing the door after the horse has already left for the most part.  I seem to remember the idea being mentioned, but did it actually come up for a vote?

[JaxJersey-licious]

Are you freaking kidding me!  That's a terrible use for Park St. 

A person that owns property on Lee st. has mentioned a Multi Story Storage Unit Business Building.

If this turns out to be true, it may not be the most ideal business for this section of Park but the fact that someone sees a demand for storage units in this area is a good sign for Brooklyn redevelopment.

Although the idea of living in new construction so close to the CBD and right next to the the red-hot Riverside neighborhood can be quite a draw, one of the negatives could be some new residents for the apartments there may be downsizing. Having storage spaces nearby as opposed to having to store things in another part of town could negate the downsizing concern and possibly help attract more residents. This kind of development could also mean that there is great potential for more residential growth in the area.

Also, if there is strong enough interest for this kind of development in the area, would you rather have this unappealing structure along Riverside Ave? Possibly on the river? I feel a lot of the talk of the preservation and renovation of Park St. is spurred by these new developments, but there was hardly any talk about this part of Park St. when Children and Families still had an active office there years ago. So compared to what has been there all these years, having multiple storage units built would constitute slight improvement over the old convenience stores and paint warehouses of yesteryear.

We may parse over what should and shouldn't be preserved, torn down, or put in its place but this area is teeming with so much potential that all the speculation there will be handsomely rewarded. 

[ProjectMaximus]

Although the idea of living in new construction so close to the CBD and right next to the the red-hot Riverside neighborhood can be quite a draw, one of the negatives could be some new residents for the apartments there may be downsizing. Having storage spaces nearby as opposed to having to store things in another part of town could negate the downsizing concern and possibly help attract more residents. This kind of development could also mean that there is great potential for more residential growth in the area.

FYI there is already a self-storage building on Park St in Brooklyn...next to the I95 overpass and across from Friday Musicale.

[Captain Zissou]

the city does not support historic properties/preservation.......look at all the vacant lots in downtown JAX and its lack of attention to its oldest neighborhood, Springfield.

There are a number of building huggers out here, they will be right over to surround the condemned buildings in Springfield. Vacant lots downtown? That is called progress, sir.

Maybe RAP could have a look. It's right in their backyard.

Yeah, sorry, their jurisdiction ends at I-10 and I-95, you need to go back to the city to look for a guy wielding a club, preferably someone on the 3rd floor of the Ed Ball Building.

Brooklyn was given the opportunity to vote for Historic designation a couple years ago, right?

Sure the two homeless guys who lived in the shacks on Park and Jackson Street flipped for it and the loser has not been seen in years.

I really enjoy watching mtrain's transition into Know Growth/North Miami style lunacy.  I don't know why you're so demolition-happy on everywhere other than "The strip", but Avondale is not the only place that should have its history preserved.

[Tacachale]

Perhaps MJ could do an article on why the Park Street warehouse district should be saved as Brooklyn continues to transform.

[thelakelander]

Stopped by and took pictures of what was left of the old bank at Park & Dora on Saturday. Here's the old safe:



I also noticed another small brick commercial building about a half block away (one block west of Park on Dora Street) has also been demolished.

[ChrisG]

I saw what appeared to be the Bank Vault being demolished. Only saw Re-bar reinforced Concrete. The entire Jax Paint Building had more than that.
We had wondered if the Jax Paint Building was built to an explosion proof Code.

[Riverrat]

An MJ article on the warehouse district in Brooklyn would be an awesome idea. I'd love to see that area transform in to lofts/restaurants/bars...it would have such an incredible cool-factor. We can't let those buildings be torn down one by one. There's too much potential.

[mtraininjax]

We can't let those buildings be torn down one by one.

Why not? It happened in LaVilla, one house at a time, it happend along Myrtle Street, and it happened along Riverside, all in the form of "Progress". In the end there are not enough people to raise hell about the buildings to really matter. No one really cares who lives in the neighborhood and that....is the real crime.

[thelakelander]

Not many people live in the neighborhood today. They've been relocated over the last decade or so. I think the blocks between Park and Riverside are down to four remaining residences.  My guess is they won't be there long when the higher property taxes start adding up.