EverBank Field Development Renderings

Started by Metro Jacksonville, November 12, 2015, 06:20:01 AM

PeeJayEss

Quote from: stephendare on November 12, 2015, 09:26:43 AM
In many ways, I would prefer a cleaner more modern version of the lower picture than the largely empty golf course looking thing in the first.

Agreed. Ennis, when is that pic from? Late 70s? Seems like it would be very long ago based on how different things are, but it really isn't.

jaxjags

Interesting points made about "blight of public facilities" and Jags "managing" the two new facilities. Lamping and the Jags will not let those become blighted over time. That is for sure.

thelakelander

Quote from: PeeJayEss on November 12, 2015, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: stephendare on November 12, 2015, 09:26:43 AM
In many ways, I would prefer a cleaner more modern version of the lower picture than the largely empty golf course looking thing in the first.

Agreed. Ennis, when is that pic from? Late 70s? Seems like it would be very long ago based on how different things are, but it really isn't.
Early 1980s. The EverBank Center (Southern Bell) building is under construction.
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blizz01

Hard to tell by the renderings, is there fixed seating - or standing room only (amphitheater)?

finehoe

Quote from: PeeJayEss on November 12, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
... the amphitheater will have more frequent and higher quality programming than Met Park...

And we know this how?

KenFSU

Quote from: finehoe on November 12, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: PeeJayEss on November 12, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
... the amphitheater will have more frequent and higher quality programming than Met Park...

And we know this how?

On the quantity side, it's a given.

Because the park was built with federal funding, there's a limit on the number of paid events that can be held at Met Park each year.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: blizz01 on November 12, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Hard to tell by the renderings, is there fixed seating - or standing room only (amphitheater)?

Description says 5k fixed, additional 5k standing.

RattlerGator

Clearly a win-win.

I'm still hoping that multiple-use facility won't be nearly as limited as the college indoor practice facilities typically are and will have seating that will allow for the hosting of high school games, etc.

On the amphitheater, I presume the renderings aren't really highlighting the probable up-slope where the 5k standing crowd will also be able to view events on the amphitheater stage. Rather than these renderings, it would be good to see a basic scale of the anticipated layout.

This is some really exciting stuff.

thelakelander

At the very least, it should be an improvement of the sidewalk and surface parking that's there today. Assuming the numbers are right, it should be a win for Jax.
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InnerCityPressure

Quote from: thelakelander on November 12, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
The blight I was describing is the decaying thing we use as an amphitheater and the ghost of Kids Kampus. Metro Park is the definition of underutilization and disconnectivity.

I think a revival of Kids Kampus - a scaled down version - would see a lot of visitors to Metro Park.  A lot of us millennials have young families and aren't scared to take our children downtown (the former issue).  We also aren't scared of letting our kids play with a diverse group of children at a city park (another former issue).  I think it would be a fantastic public amenity with a splash pad, playground and a bank of covered picnic areas.  They could make it Jaguars-themed and let Khan pay for it for all I care.  Keep it simple and inexpensive, so it can be utilized for something more ambitious later in life...

exnewsman

Quote from: CCMjax on November 12, 2015, 08:49:31 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 12, 2015, 08:39:25 AM
as noted in another thread, I want to see some real to-scale drawings.  I am not at all convinced a 10,000 person capacity amphitheater can be "tucked in" between the stadium and indoor practice facility.  It seems more likely that some of the surface parking area would need to be used. 

While this may not be a bad thing, it would mean a loss in total spaces, and a potential reduction in revenue to the city for some events (like GA-FL).  And yes, I fully realize that those lots sit empty much of the time, and that programming at the amphitheater would mean better utilization of the lots.  I just think it is important that the City and Jaguars be 100% open and honest with taxpayers.

Taking some of the existing parking spots should not be a problem here people.  Aren't there acres of dirt and grass fields east of the stadium for parking?  And two parking garages near by, and acres of fields along the north bank of the river?  Seems like more parking than most stadiums in cities have.

Not to mention the Stadium Shuttle.

exnewsman

Quote from: KenFSU on November 12, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: finehoe on November 12, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: PeeJayEss on November 12, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
... the amphitheater will have more frequent and higher quality programming than Met Park...

And we know this how?

On the quantity side, it's a given.

Because the park was built with federal funding, there's a limit on the number of paid events that can be held at Met Park each year.

Which makes NO sense at all.

thelakelander

Quote from: InnerCityPressure on November 12, 2015, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on November 12, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
The blight I was describing is the decaying thing we use as an amphitheater and the ghost of Kids Kampus. Metro Park is the definition of underutilization and disconnectivity.

I think a revival of Kids Kampus - a scaled down version - would see a lot of visitors to Metro Park.  A lot of us millennials have young families and aren't scared to take our children downtown (the former issue).  We also aren't scared of letting our kids play with a diverse group of children at a city park (another former issue).  I think it would be a fantastic public amenity with a splash pad, playground and a bank of covered picnic areas.  They could make it Jaguars-themed and let Khan pay for it for all I care.  Keep it simple and inexpensive, so it can be utilized for something more ambitious later in life...
Kids Kampus used to be packed with young families. I don't think attendance was an issue. The larger concern from COJ may have been the maintenance.
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vicupstate

QuoteAlso, are the exterior walls of the practice facility rendered as video boards? Is Jax going for the first, second, and third biggest video boards?? This looks like something out of Beijing in 2008.

I noticed this from the beginning. I would be really surprised if these aren't used for advertising that the Jags get 100% of the revenue from, even though the city would 'own' the facility.  Of course, they would classify as billboards for all intents and purposes, and therefore illegal, but no doubt would be allowed.     
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InnerCityPressure

Quote from: thelakelander on November 12, 2015, 01:33:52 PM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on November 12, 2015, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on November 12, 2015, 09:17:27 AM
The blight I was describing is the decaying thing we use as an amphitheater and the ghost of Kids Kampus. Metro Park is the definition of underutilization and disconnectivity.

I think a revival of Kids Kampus - a scaled down version - would see a lot of visitors to Metro Park.  A lot of us millennials have young families and aren't scared to take our children downtown (the former issue).  We also aren't scared of letting our kids play with a diverse group of children at a city park (another former issue).  I think it would be a fantastic public amenity with a splash pad, playground and a bank of covered picnic areas.  They could make it Jaguars-themed and let Khan pay for it for all I care.  Keep it simple and inexpensive, so it can be utilized for something more ambitious later in life...
Kids Kampus used to be packed with young families. I don't think attendance was an issue. The larger concern from COJ may have been the maintenance.

Then add it to things the Jaguars are managing and let it double as a "tailgating" park for game days...