Southbank Broadstone River House Apartments

[thelakelander]

Don't expect them to go down unless they are being subsidized with public money to purposely drop the leasing rates, or they can't lease them at those rates. In the event they can't lease at those rates, we can basically give up at hoping thousands of more residential units will materialize anytime soon.

[ProjectMaximus]

^Yeah thats whats giving them confidence to build. East San Marco I believe is trying to attract even higher rents!!

[brainstormer]

This is great news! I checked out the site plan of the Broadstone Hyde Park in Tampa.



I would hope that this would be modified to provide more apartments with views of the river. I love that the parking is "within" the building and hidden from view for the most part. If this development happens, it could force some redevelopment of the retail that fronts the riverwalk in that area.

[thelakelander]

Rendering of Broadstone River House:

[acme54321]

Looks good to me.  That many more people on the southbank certainly can't hurt.

[Noone]

If they build this, I hope they do a better job of keeping it up AFTER they build it than they are doing with their Beach House apartments in Jax Beach.  When that went up, it was drop-dead gorgeous (for an apartment complex); a nice gated complex, with good looking buildings and nice grounds.  When my wife and I drove through there last month, it was downright scary looking!  The gate to enter was broken (which seems to be a perpetual issue), the grounds look like they haven't been maintained in those five years (trees and plants overgrown, hanging over fences, covering windows, etc.)   It just looked terrible, and we couldn't drive out of there quickly enough.

I know there is always great scrutiny on this forum about developers who propose to do great and marvelous things, especially in the downtown area; I hope that the DIA looks closely at this group before they start doing all of their work behind the scenes.

Stay positive.

[TimmyB]

If they build this, I hope they do a better job of keeping it up AFTER they build it than they are doing with their Beach House apartments in Jax Beach.  When that went up, it was drop-dead gorgeous (for an apartment complex); a nice gated complex, with good looking buildings and nice grounds.  When my wife and I drove through there last month, it was downright scary looking!  The gate to enter was broken (which seems to be a perpetual issue), the grounds look like they haven't been maintained in those five years (trees and plants overgrown, hanging over fences, covering windows, etc.)   It just looked terrible, and we couldn't drive out of there quickly enough.

I know there is always great scrutiny on this forum about developers who propose to do great and marvelous things, especially in the downtown area; I hope that the DIA looks closely at this group before they start doing all of their work behind the scenes.

Stay positive.

There was nothing negative about my comment.  I am HOPING they do a better job.  I want the rental market to be strong, as that is what we will be living in, when we get to JAX.  I am also HOPING they bring their site in JB back to their original glory.

[Marle Brando]

Construction to begin in May per The Daily Record:   https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=547304

[FlaBoy]

Awesome. I still wish they would put some retain on Prudential. It will be another dead corridor in DT Jax. Definitely moving in the right direction though.

[thelakelander]

That little stretch of Prudential should be improved, as opposed to be completely typical dead DT Jax corridor. It's infill that integrated in a walkable manner. As the corridor develops and a market from retail actually materializes, you'll see some opportunities arise. For example, if The District materializes, phase one will include quite a bit of retail.

[acme54321]

That little stretch of Prudential should be improved, as opposed to be completely typical dead DT Jax corridor. It's infill that integrated in a walkable manner. As the corridor develops and a market from retail actually materializes, you'll see some opportunities arise. For example, if The District materializes, phase one will include quite a bit of retail.

There is plenty of opportunity for some retail development along King's ave between Nira and Prudential already.  If the people come those buildings will fill up.

[FlaBoy]

That little stretch of Prudential should be improved, as opposed to be completely typical dead DT Jax corridor. It's infill that integrated in a walkable manner. As the corridor develops and a market from retail actually materializes, you'll see some opportunities arise. For example, if The District materializes, phase one will include quite a bit of retail.

Just a little bit of retail for the hopeful moment when the market can sustain it is necessary now though because once the building is up, it is too late. I know I am preaching to the choir but it would not do much to their bottom line. We are talking three or four units on the ground floor to set aside to have something there. You will have all the people who live there plus everyone who works across the street at the DuPont Center as potential clients along with the hotel.

I don't know. When I see this (otherwise, a great project) and the Gate situation in Brooklyn, I just shake my head because our leaders could push back easily and get accommodations.

[thelakelander]

^I believe someone just purchased the row of largely abandoned retail/offices along the riverwalk, immediately adjacent to this project. I suspect that will be the initial infill retail. On the site plan, it appears one of the spaces immediately adjacent to this complex is a restaurant with outdoor seating.

[ProjectMaximus]

I don't know. When I see this (otherwise, a great project) and the Gate situation in Brooklyn, I just shake my head because our leaders could push back easily and get accommodations.

I wouldn't put those in the same category. One is adding dense urban infill that maybe could be a bit better. The other is a suburban gas station. Also, in the case of the apartments you're suggesting that DDRB force them to get into a business (retail leasing) which doesn't seem to be what they do at all.

[thelakelander]

Given the location and corridor, this particular project looks fine to me. Not even in NYC will every infill project be mixed-use.