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[tufsu1]

that's pretty sad...it is very difficult to kick into the open end by the river at Heinz Field...and it was quite breezy Thursday night.

That said, as a Ravens fan...I wasn't exactly upset with the misses.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Didnt see the game, how many did he miss?

[JaxNative68]

After today's game... bring Scobee back to Jax!!!

[BridgeTroll]

We still get the 6th rounder and a salary cut... win-win! 

[I-10east]

Mr Goodell's agenda always has been to screw up the NFL. Yay, kickers are now missing extra points more often, are you happy now Goodell?? His dumb anti-sudden death 'Brett Favre overtime rule' change has proved to be an overreaction, and frankly a folly so far. I believe that this rule has never came into play (with a team kicking a field goal, than the opponent making a TD for the win in OT) correct me if I'm wrong. The whole Brady Deflategate fiasco had him looking extremely incompetent. This commish makes Paul Tagliabue look like a legendary commissioner who's headed to the HOF. 

[RattlerGator]

Actually, I think the increased uncertainty about extra points is a very good things. They had become far, far too automatic.

And there's no way in hell we should be looking at Scobee. Stick with the kid. Misses are going to happen. No need to freak out now.

[thelakelander]

Great news for Dolphin fans. Philbin expected to be fired today!

[BridgeTroll]

He has been fired...

[Josh]

That's what happens when you lose to the Jags.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

A lot of you may have already seen this, but I saw it and laughed.

[spuwho]

That's what happens when you lose to the Jags.

Its true. Kubiak went downhill with the Texans after they lost to the Jags. He was fired shortly after.

[I-10east]

The Chargers counsel confirmed that they'll apply for relocation to L.A. In about five weeks, it may be the last time that the Jags plays the San Diego Chargers.

http://www.kusi.com/story/30338823/chargers-owners-spokesman-on-chargers-stadium-update

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/24/chargers-counsel-confirms-theyll-apply-for-relocation-to-l-a/

[spuwho]

With Philbin in the dustbin,

What other NFL coaches are headed the same way before or at the end of the year?

- Shad already said in London that it will be a year end thing for Bradley and Caldwell and the Jags
- Pagano is definitely out the door in Indianapolis. The goofy play against the Pats confirmed that
- Andy Reid has been going downhill in KC this year, but still has 2 years left in his deal, he is safe
- Payton in NO is safe for the rest of this year unless they lose the rest, he would get fired then.
- Harbaugh in Baltimore is a tough call. They are going through a major personnel transition and the owner likes him a lot. I think he stays
- Pettine gets more press on not playing Manziel than losing, he is safe for another year
- O'Brien still has another year to prove something in Houston
- Jim Caldwell will get another year at Detroit
- Jeff Fisher will probably get one more year in STL regardless of the record
- Tomsula will get fired at the end of the year only if a better coach becomes available

The untouchables

- Steelers - Mike Tomlin
- Bengals - Marv Lewis
- Patriots - Bill Belichick
- Panthers - Ron Rivera
- Packers - Mike McCarthy
- Bronocs - Gary Kubiak (until Manning retires)

[BridgeTroll]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/28/chargers-town-hall-comments-make-even-more-clear-the-teams-desire-to-leave/

Chargers' town-hall comments make even more clear the team's desire to leave

Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2015, 11:22 PM EDT

As the NFL checks the boxes for relocation by conducting town hall meetings in the cities that would be affected by the looming movement of one or two teams to Los Angeles, the process shifted on Wednesday night to San Diego. And the Chargers have released a copy of their remarks at the forum, which makes even more clear the team's intent to leave for L.A.

"Over the 14 years the Chargers have worked to find a way to build a new stadium in San Diego, we have attended hundreds of town halls, community meetings and fan forums," the team's presentation states. "Throughout all this time, though, at least one thing has been clear: The failure to come up with an actionable plan has absolutely nothing to do with the great Charger fans. The fans are certainly not to blame for the fact that, over the years, one elected official after another has been elected after promising 'no taxpayer money for an NFL stadium.'"

So while the Chargers stopped short of blaming Chargers fans, the Chargers are blaming those San Diegans who have elected politicians who have made good on a vow to not devote taxpayer money to a new stadium. Which means, in essence, that the Chargers have a problem not with Chargers fans but with San Diegans who have voted for politicians who have not been responsive to the efforts to build a new stadium.

"[W]e've tried everything we could think of to find a stadium solution," the Chargers explain in their comments. "We made nine separate stadium proposals. . . . So it is incredibly unfair that the Chargers' great fans are now bearing the brunt of the decisions made by politicians over the last 14 years."

The fact that the fans are bearing the brunt of anything means that the Chargers are indeed on the brink of bolting for L.A.

The comments also outline the team's position regarding the city's latest proposal, which hinges the project on an environmental review process that would be fully concluded and litigated well after it's too late for the Chargers to leave for L.A. if the effort fails.

"Under the City's quickie environmental review plan, the City takes no risk," the Chargers state. "If the City's plan loses at the ballot box, or is struck down after several years of litigation by the courts, the City loses nothing other than the taxpayer money that will go to the successful plaintiffs' lawyers. So, if you are the City, why wouldn't you bet on even a small chance of winning, because if you lose, you don't really lose?

"The Chargers, on the other hand, are being asked to assume all of the risk. The team bears all the risk of losing the election, or losing the [environmental impact review] challenge in court. The franchise will have wasted several years of time, given up a certain opportunity in the Los Angeles market, and, when all is said and done, likely squandered whatever negotiating leverage we had in San Diego."

In other words, the Chargers and San Diego are at an impasse — and the only option for the Chargers at this point is to move.

[spuwho]

If 25-30% of their fanbase dont even live anywhere near San Diego, then they are asking the wrong people to help foot the bill.

Ask that same 25-30% to pay a 40% non-resident upcharge on their season tickets to help pay for a local taxpayer paid stadium and see how loyal they really are.