Jacksonville for Bernie Sanders

[coredumped]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

[The_Choose_1]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

I would Take Hilliary over any REPUBLICAN that is running for the White House at this time. 

[Adam White]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

I'm not going to defend Obama's record - but I think it's a bit harsh to call him a warmonger when he's just continued what the other guy(s) started.

I'd imagine Clinton wouldn't be much different - and I suspect any of the Republicans would be the same, too.

[simms3]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

I would Take Hilliary over any REPUBLICAN that is running for the White House at this time. 

What I don't understand is why you would take Hillary over Bernie.  As literally everyone has said, the Primaries are purely about voting for who you want to...even if for a guy/gal who might get only 0.0001% of a single party's Primary voter turnout.  I'm guessing you genuinely prefer Hillary over Bernie and that you are voting for her in the Primary based on this, not because you think that Bernie won't win the nomination.  If it's the latter and you are voting for Hillary simply because you don't think Bernie has a shot, then you are part of the issue that there are so many people with this mentality that vote for the person they think will win rather than the person they actually want to win (which would be ode to the cluelessness about process that several forum members have cautiously brought up to you).  Food for thought that if you like Bernie, your vote can make a difference, moreover, your vocal support for the man can make an even larger difference since so many people vote for who their more vocal (and apparently informed) friends are voting for...

[simms3]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

I'm not going to defend Obama's record - but I think it's a bit harsh to call him a warmonger when he's just continued what the other guy(s) started.

I'd imagine Clinton wouldn't be much different - and I suspect any of the Republicans would be the same, too.

Hilary, Obama, and Bush are on some levels all cut from the same mold.  They are all purely politicians, not ideologues across most of the spectrum.  Their means is a tad different, but their end is all basically the same.

This is where I believe Bernie to be different.  His end is very different and his means is also very different, reflecting what he truly believes down to his core.  He is an ideologue, and I respect that about him.  He's a politician second.  I think he will utterly destroy Hilary in debates because people will see that he is both informed and genuine, rather than rehearsed and fake.

[Adam White]

Thank God!

As for Hilary, if you've been happy with our warmongering president Obama, you'll love her!

I'm not going to defend Obama's record - but I think it's a bit harsh to call him a warmonger when he's just continued what the other guy(s) started.

I'd imagine Clinton wouldn't be much different - and I suspect any of the Republicans would be the same, too.

Hilary, Obama, and Bush are on some levels all cut from the same mold.  They are all purely politicians, not ideologues across most of the spectrum.  Their means is a tad different, but their end is all basically the same.

This is where I believe Bernie to be different.  His end is very different and his means is also very different, reflecting what he truly believes down to his core.  He is an ideologue, and I respect that about him.  He's a politician second.  I think he will utterly destroy Hilary in debates because people will see that he is both informed and genuine, rather than rehearsed and fake.

I agree that Bernie is different - he's certainly more principled. But he is still a politician, so I wonder how different he would be if he got the job. Plus, I suspect that it's easy to have a lot principles before you get the job. Once you do, it's likely a whole different story.

I hope Sanders destroys Hillary in the debates. But if he continues to do well, he will be pilloried in the press and by the combined power of Hillary's campaign and the Democratic Party. It will be like the 1950s red scare all over again.

[ronchamblin]

Bernie Sanders is quite intelligent and perceptive ... seeing what most GOP goofballs, and even Hillary, cannot.  Hillary is faking her way so as to appear genuinely concerned about the average worker, the majority, and about important issues.  But being too long associated with the elitist establishment, and involved in the process of gaining and holding wealth ... and being too much the classic politician ... even if she massages her thinking to appear genuinely concerned about making the important changes in government and society, she will be overwhelmed by the established powers, as was Obama, and therefore will be the same mediocrity as was Obama.

Our nation's predicament ...  the suffering of the average worker and the great middle class, is understood by Sanders.  He knows that something must be done to change the worsening political culture in Washington ...  to rid our government of the entrenched politicians too concerned about enhancing their own power and wealth, and who do very little to achieve genuine legislation favoring the great majority.

Sanders is leading the genuine arguments against the destructive and abusive status quo.  All other candidates will attempt to copy so as to gain votes, but once elected, will laps into meandering ineptitude.

Maybe Sanders and Warren?  What a pair.

Given his political philosophy, and the threat he poses to the real power in this country, there is a slight chance that Sanders will be assassinated.     

[The_Choose_1]

Bernie Sanders is quite intelligent and perceptive ... seeing what most GOP goofballs, and even Hillary, cannot.  Hillary is faking her way so as to appear genuinely concerned about the average worker, the majority, and about important issues.  But being too long associated with the elitist establishment, and involved in the process of gaining and holding wealth ... and being too much the classic politician ... even if she massages her thinking to appear genuinely concerned about making the important changes in government and society, she will be overwhelmed by the established powers, as was Obama, and therefore will be the same mediocrity as was Obama.

Our nation's predicament ...  the suffering of the average worker and the great middle class, is understood by Sanders.  He knows that something must be done to change the worsening political culture in Washington ...  to rid our government of the entrenched politicians too concerned about enhancing their own power and wealth, and who do very little to achieve genuine legislation favoring the great majority.

Sanders is leading the genuine arguments against the destructive and abusive status quo.  All other candidates will attempt to copy so as to gain votes, but once elected, will laps into meandering ineptitude.

Maybe Sanders and Warren?  What a pair.

Given his political philosophy, and the threat he poses to the real power in this country, there is a slight chance that Sanders will be assassinated.   

So you don't like Hilliary? Do you remember John McCain & Sarah Palin ha ha ha ha. The people that thought Sarah was a smart and intelligent woman have got to be a little off? "I can see Russia from my Kitchen Window." Yes I know she didn't say this quote. But here is what she has said over the years? 1. "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."
― Sarah Palin 2. "God's will has to be done, in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that."
― Sarah Palin 3. "Well, let's see. There's—of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others. But, um."
― Sarah Palin 4. "You were born to live live to die so fuck the world and get high" So go ahead and beat your chest and believe that Bernie Sanders would be a good President. But the question I have for you do you even vote? Because a lot of people that feel they have a higher IQ don't vote. I have heard.

[ronchamblin]

If you were to listen to some of Sander's speeches and interviews, you would discover that he is far and away different from a Sarah Palin type;  that is, the typical self-centered politician out to play the game of politics.

There a great difference between the philosophies, motives, intelligence, and concerns of these two individuals.

[Adam White]

Bernie Sanders is quite intelligent and perceptive ... seeing what most GOP goofballs, and even Hillary, cannot.  Hillary is faking her way so as to appear genuinely concerned about the average worker, the majority, and about important issues.  But being too long associated with the elitist establishment, and involved in the process of gaining and holding wealth ... and being too much the classic politician ... even if she massages her thinking to appear genuinely concerned about making the important changes in government and society, she will be overwhelmed by the established powers, as was Obama, and therefore will be the same mediocrity as was Obama.

Our nation's predicament ...  the suffering of the average worker and the great middle class, is understood by Sanders.  He knows that something must be done to change the worsening political culture in Washington ...  to rid our government of the entrenched politicians too concerned about enhancing their own power and wealth, and who do very little to achieve genuine legislation favoring the great majority.

Sanders is leading the genuine arguments against the destructive and abusive status quo.  All other candidates will attempt to copy so as to gain votes, but once elected, will laps into meandering ineptitude.

Maybe Sanders and Warren?  What a pair.

Given his political philosophy, and the threat he poses to the real power in this country, there is a slight chance that Sanders will be assassinated.   

So you don't like Hilliary? Do you remember John McCain & Sarah Palin ha ha ha ha. The people that thought Sarah was a smart and intelligent woman have got to be a little off? "I can see Russia from my Kitchen Window." Yes I know she didn't say this quote. But here is what she has said over the years? 1. "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."
― Sarah Palin 2. "God's will has to be done, in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that."
― Sarah Palin 3. "Well, let's see. There's—of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others. But, um."
― Sarah Palin 4. "You were born to live live to die so fuck the world and get high" So go ahead and beat your chest and believe that Bernie Sanders would be a good President. But the question I have for you do you even vote? Because a lot of people that feel they have a higher IQ don't vote. I have heard.

I think Sanders is a smart guy and I think he is principled. He is also the only major-party candidate that offers anything remotely different.

I am not sure I agree with Ron's statement that Clinton is faking an interest in the average worker. But I do think she's even more a part of the establishment than Sanders and I think she's lost a lot of her perspective and ideals over the years.

I'd love it if Sanders won the Democratic nomination. But he won't.

[fsquid]

Trump is literally the only "Republican" that Sanders could beat. 

[ronchamblin]

Maybe ..... but times are achangin ...  me thinks.

[The_Choose_1]

Politicians will always be the same besides "per Wiki" Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is an American politician and the junior United States Senator from Vermont. He has announced his candidacy for the Democratic nomination in the 2016 presidential election.

Sanders is the longest-serving independent in U.S. congressional history. A self-described democratic socialist,[5][6][7][8] he favors policies similar to those of social democratic parties in Europe, particularly those of Scandinavia.[9" He has a snow ball chance in Hell to bet Hilliary and lets say he did? God Forbid. The Republicans would win the White House and if a Republican gets into the White House with a Republican controlled  House & Senate. Well I'm gone you can have America "Sydney Australia sounds like it would be a great place to live." Because with these Idiots running the show. Atheists like the bookmine dude and a lot on this Forum you're Screwed. I believe in God but I don't want my Government telling me how or which God to pray to. "Freedom of Religion" goes both ways you can believe or you don't. God gave us all Free Will. And when you Die because, Thank God we all do one day. We all will be judged by him or we will all just rot in the ground.  p.s. Yes I believe in a God but I don't go to Church unless it's for a wedding or a Funeral. I also was baptized in the Methodist Church. But I even have doubt what happens after I die.

[The_Choose_1]

Trump is literally the only "Republican" that Sanders could beat.

I would have agreed with you two elections ago.  Unfortunately the Republican brand is so damaged, and the country has changed so much due to so many of the GI generation dying off (which they continue to do daily) I doubt very much that would be true by election time.

So Stephen in your great wisdom would you vote for Trump?

[The_Choose_1]

Trump is literally the only "Republican" that Sanders could beat.

I would have agreed with you two elections ago.  Unfortunately the Republican brand is so damaged, and the country has changed so much due to so many of the GI generation dying off (which they continue to do daily) I doubt very much that would be true by election time.

So Stephen in your great wisdom would you vote for Trump?

Why ask me questions about my opinion, gg?

Because you believe you know all. And you have posted over
    40940 (13.780 per day) So your smart or just full of ?