I-295 East Beltway Being Expanded to 12 Lanes

Started by Metro Jacksonville, July 01, 2015, 03:00:01 AM

thelakelander

Except it's the 21st century. We can label the roads whatever we want but as long as it's faster to go through town on the highway currently known as I-95, don't assume that a drop in AADT will occur.  Some type of infrastructure change on the mainline through town would have to be included to encourage or force regional traffic to alternative corridors.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

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Quote from: tufsu1 on July 01, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Quote from: southsider1015 on July 01, 2015, 06:17:10 PM


  I wonder if this is consistent with the adopted 2040 long range transportation plan? It sure wouldn't be with the one fone for 2035

We have no business,nor should there be formal Plan "Horizon" for such fast forward "Foresight".

Related to Growth Management process,DCA et al,Sector Plan expanded time frame"Horizon" ushered forward under the assumption ( 'Guise') of supposed greater grasp,responsibilty,checks helped move the expanded Go To Plaid 'Horizon'. By a relative few years.
Lake Asbury Sector Plan (Outer Limits Beltway) Number One ( 'not authorized').....and Da'Number Two provided hints.

(Yep,another Obtuse KG post  8)   Just awaiting somebody else to Profile the Lake Asbury expanded planning horizon Sector Plan 1 Non Authorized and #2 episode. I need another chapter.)

Charles Hunter


southsider1015

Quote from: thelakelander on July 02, 2015, 08:06:19 PM
Except it's the 21st century. We can label the roads whatever we want but as long as it's faster to go through town on the highway currently known as I-95, don't assume that a drop in AADT will occur.  Some type of infrastructure change on the mainline through town would have to be included to encourage or force regional traffic to alternative corridors.

I'm not so concerned with the road name designation, but the fact that I-295 might be able to get you from St. Johns to Nassau faster than I-95 because of these Express Lanes would be a nice benefit, no? 

Again, I don't know if it will be faster, but it could be one day.  Even just by the added capacity, maybe regional traffic would use just the GPL lanes (free) on I-295 instead.

It's just a possible benefit, that's all.

thelakelander

In the event that Jax ever gets a real rush hour (doubt it will be soon with DT's high vacancy rates), my guess is 95 will eventually have express lanes. I believe you've even mentioned that before.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

fieldafm

QuoteI don't know if it will be faster, but it could be one day

Sounds like a good reason to spend another few hundred million to find out whether it will work.

That line of thinking worked out really well for Richmond 15 years ago.

brucef58

Let us hope that FDOT does something about the chokepoint under JTB there is probably room for four lanes each way under this section and the backup also occurs where traffic from JTB moves onto I-295 northbound. If the these issues are not addressed properly the Lexus Lanes will be useless.

thewendyjx

Talk about another cluster &***. This is another waste of Jax's time and funds at what point of time are we going to ever finish something that was started with quality? At what point are we going to have a project that was done not need repair or additions made within five to ten years? At what point are we going to inspect the minds of the people who are passing out permits like water to a fire? So many obvious questions yet most will not ask because not sure they are willing to demand answers or are worth the effort.

PJparker

Quote from: Metro Jacksonville on July 01, 2015, 03:00:01 AM
I-295 East Beltway Being Expanded to 12 Lanes



Don't believe us? Take a look at the plans and count them for yourself!

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jul-i-295-east-beltway-being-expanded-to-12-lanes

I don't believe ANYTHING written by this magazine anymore. I read the article about the city council approved ferris wheel, and told lots of people about it. Finally, someone called the city council, who explained to me it was a lie. Of course, the excuse for the lie was that it was a prank, by metronews, and the reader was supposed to realize that from the day it was published.

I don't think April Fools Day is a national holiday for anyone over the age of 18. I know metronews lied to the readers on that day, and I haven't read an article in that publication since then. I have no respect for The Onion, for it's journalistic integrity or humor, and this publication chose to follow that lead, leaving me with the same impression.

So, my only choice when I see a headline like this is to wait for a trustworthy news source to bring it to my attention. It's a really sad, sad day in the name of news when the Florida Times Union is the closest stand-in for credible news in this city.

nadine

As to the I-295 expansion, two things:  1,)  I remember an election where toll roads were voted on and the populace said NO to having them, and 2.)  I read recently that Jacksonville was going to have a new interstate known as I-795 which would include SR 9B which is discussed in this article.  Is I-795 the same issue as this article?

Ocklawaha

9-B IS I-795, the 9-B being the states official designation and I-795 the official federal designation.

Ocklawaha

Quote from: PJparker on July 03, 2015, 11:55:20 AM
I don't believe ANYTHING written by this magazine anymore. I read the article about the city council approved ferris wheel, and told lots of people about it. Finally, someone called the city council, who explained to me it was a lie. Of course, the excuse for the lie was that it was a prank, by metronews, and the reader was supposed to realize that from the day it was published.

I don't think April Fools Day is a national holiday for anyone over the age of 18. I know metronews lied to the readers on that day, and I haven't read an article in that publication since then. I have no respect for The Onion, for it's journalistic integrity or humor, and this publication chose to follow that lead, leaving me with the same impression.

So, my only choice when I see a headline like this is to wait for a trustworthy news source to bring it to my attention. It's a really sad, sad day in the name of news when the Florida Times Union is the closest stand-in for credible news in this city.

So count yourself as one of our unsuspecting victims, it's actually quite hard to come up with believable news spoofs that work. The mainstream and not so mainstream media have been doing this for hundreds of years, (in fact it's believed to go WAY back), and we decided a few years ago that taking a laugh break one day a year was worth the effort. Here are 31 other great news spoofs...honest!:

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coredumped

I read on this site that both Macy's AND Ikea were coming and still nothing! I pay good money for this site and I'm entitled to facts, I'm never coming here again! :P
Jags season ticket holder.

southsider1015

Quote from: nadine on July 03, 2015, 01:30:52 PM
As to the I-295 expansion, two things:  1,)  I remember an election where toll roads were voted on and the populace said NO to having them, and 2.)  I read recently that Jacksonville was going to have a new interstate known as I-795 which would include SR 9B which is discussed in this article.  Is I-795 the same issue as this article?

The CITY voted that, but not the state.  The City has no control over the interstate system.
See, the problems really lie in Washington as it the relate to the Highway Trust Fund, which is sill insolvent today.  If state DOTs were adequately funded, we could continue to pay for our transportation needs the the current gas tax model.  Since we've significantly improved gad mileage, we're buying less gas and paying less gas tax, but were driving more than ever before.

Look, no one wants to pay a toll, and in fact, you'll be able to drive in I-295 without paying any tolls AND still benefit from the additional lanes. 

The promises from an old mayor (now newly elected councilman) continue to confuse Jacksonville folks.  It would be nice if he were more clear about what the City can and cannot do.

southsider1015

Quote from: thelakelander on July 03, 2015, 09:04:47 AM
In the event that Jax ever gets a real rush hour (doubt it will be soon with DT's high vacancy rates), my guess is 95 will eventually have express lanes. I believe you've even mentioned that before.

It's VERY early in its inception.  Construction year  could be 2030, if ever.  There's no significant rush; level of service is decent.  Overland Bridge DB was an opportunity to add some capacity while replacing the bridge.  The upcoming I-10/I-95 Operational Improvements will extend the newly added capacity over the Fuller Warron, add additional ramps, and fix some other issues.  The JTB interchange project is adding the badly needed flyover to the Beaches.  These projects should really help the LOS on this strech of I-95. Managed Lanes shouldn't be a major priority right now.