Jacksonville Mayoral election 2015

Started by Cheshire Cat, January 23, 2015, 08:45:37 PM

Tacachale

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 06, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2015-05-06/story/mayor-brown-agrees-action-news-debate-challenger-lenny-curry#cxrecs_s

Mayor Brown caves......  :o

QuoteMayor Alvin Brown said Wednesday he will participate in an Action News debate with challenger Lenny Curry, agreeing to that debate just hours before it will take place.

Brown previously declined Action News' invitation a month ago. He said Wednesday he changed his mind because he wants to "look Lenny in the eye" and rebut criticism Curry has leveled in the course of the campaign — criticism that Brown labeled distortion and lies.

"The decision was made to defend the city of Jacksonville," Brown said. "Lenny Curry has been going around over the last few months, but especially over the last several weeks, and has done nothing but criticize Jacksonville. He's lied about who we are and what we've accomplished and sought to diminish our incredible growth over the last four years."

The decision was made to defend the city of Jacksonville........ ::)

Oh wow. Hopefully he'll still doing the other two, right?

Tuning in now.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

DuvalHusky

#166
Wow! Mayor Alvin Brown uses the 'L"word in the first minute. I weep for our City!

Tacachale

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Cheshire Cat

Could be a nail biter but similar polls had Hogan far ahead of Brown last go round and we know how that ended up.  This is a snapshot from today.  Anything can happen in two weeks. 
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

mtraininjax

"We're all working together, Republicans and Democrats. "

Mayor Brown discussing Jacksonville North Carolina, cause that sure ain't FL.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

tufsu1

Quote from: mtraininjax on May 06, 2015, 07:46:09 PM
"We're all working together, Republicans and Democrats. "

Mayor Brown discussing Jacksonville North Carolina, cause that sure ain't FL.

actually it has been pretty clear for the past 4 years that Mayor Brown is not that partisan.  Many of his policies and positions have been in complete opposition to general Democratic Party positions.

Also, Mayor Brown has crossover support from Republican elected officials....I'm still waiting for a Democratic official to endorse Curry.

Tacachale

I'd rather see who the competent officials are endorsing. Guess who's winning that race?
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

tufsu1

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Quote from: Tacachale on May 06, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
I'd rather see who the competent officials are endorsing. Guess who's winning that race?

By competent do you mean Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Rick Scott?

As for local officials, I think the Bill Bishop, Warren Jones, John Crescimbeni, and Stephen Joost are very competent councilmen

Tacachale

Quote from: tufsu1 on May 07, 2015, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 06, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
I'd rather see who the competent officials are endorsing. Guess who's winning that race?

By competent do you mean Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Rick Scott?

As for local officials, I think the Bill Bishop, Warren Jones, John Crescimbeni, and Stephen Joost are very competent councilmen

Yep, I'd regard Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio as competent officials. Rick Scott must also be pretty important, considering how much Alvin invoked his name until the moment he backed Curry. I'll see your Rick Perry and raise you a Bill Cosby.

Locally, there's also Sheriff Rutherford, John Peyton, the FOP, the Chamber of Commerce, the Civic Council, Ander Crenshaw, Aaron Bean, and John Delaney. Not knocking Jones, Joost, et al, but...
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

vicupstate

Quote from: Tacachale on May 07, 2015, 08:41:56 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 07, 2015, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 06, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
I'd rather see who the competent officials are endorsing. Guess who's winning that race?

By competent do you mean Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Rick Scott?

As for local officials, I think the Bill Bishop, Warren Jones, John Crescimbeni, and Stephen Joost are very competent councilmen

Yep, I'd regard Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio as competent officials. Rick Scott must also be pretty important, considering how much Alvin invoked his name until the moment he backed Curry. I'll see your Rick Perry and raise you a Bill Cosby.

Locally, there's also Sheriff Rutherford, John Peyton, the FOP, the Chamber of Commerce, the Civic Council, Ander Crenshaw, Aaron Bean, and John Delaney. Not knocking Jones, Joost, et al, but...

Every proper name that you mentioned is simply a Republican endorsing a Republican (except for the last sentence of Brown endorsers, of course).   Do you really think Rick Perry knows jack squat about the issues facing Jacksonville?  I'd be impressed if he could point to it on a map frankly. 

If the GOP party really gave a damn, they would have backed a genuinely competent candidate with a vision for the city, instead of handing out a 'reward' to one of their fellow party hacks.       
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tufsu1

Quote from: vicupstate on May 07, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
Every proper name that you mentioned is simply a Republican endorsing a Republican (except for the last sentence of Brown endorsers, of course).   Do you really think Rick Perry knows jack squat about the issues facing Jacksonville?  I'd be impressed if he could point to it on a map frankly. 

If the GOP party really gave a damn, they would have backed a genuinely competent candidate with a vision for the city, instead of handing out a 'reward' to one of their fellow party hacks.       

EXACTLY!!!

tufsu1

and then there is this....while I am no fan of Mike Hogan, Mayor Brown has shown crossover support.  Curry continues to only show us big-name Republican supporters.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182305

Tacachale

Quote from: vicupstate on May 07, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 07, 2015, 08:41:56 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 07, 2015, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 06, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
I'd rather see who the competent officials are endorsing. Guess who's winning that race?

By competent do you mean Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and Rick Scott?

As for local officials, I think the Bill Bishop, Warren Jones, John Crescimbeni, and Stephen Joost are very competent councilmen

Yep, I'd regard Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio as competent officials. Rick Scott must also be pretty important, considering how much Alvin invoked his name until the moment he backed Curry. I'll see your Rick Perry and raise you a Bill Cosby.

Locally, there's also Sheriff Rutherford, John Peyton, the FOP, the Chamber of Commerce, the Civic Council, Ander Crenshaw, Aaron Bean, and John Delaney. Not knocking Jones, Joost, et al, but...

Every proper name that you mentioned is simply a Republican endorsing a Republican (except for the last sentence of Brown endorsers, of course).   Do you really think Rick Perry knows jack squat about the issues facing Jacksonville?  I'd be impressed if he could point to it on a map frankly. 


Who cares their party if they're competent? All the party connection really shows is that competent politicians in Jax and Florida tend to be Republicans. (Not that every Republican is competent, or their endorsement is relevant to the race; I don't care about Rick Perry any more than I care Bill Cosby.)

There's also the Civic Council and Chamber endorsements, not to mention the various folks who supported Brown in 2011 but switched in 2015.

Quote from: vicupstate on May 07, 2015, 10:46:03 AM

If the GOP party really gave a damn, they would have backed a genuinely competent candidate with a vision for the city, instead of handing out a 'reward' to one of their fellow party hacks.     

Exactly the same thing is true of the Democrats: if the party gave a damn, they wouldn't have dumped millions into electing an unproven nobody in 2011, and then re-electing him in 2015 even after he proved to be a disaster. Both parties are only involved here because this is an important region in state and national elections.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Tacachale

Quote from: tufsu1 on May 07, 2015, 11:23:27 AM
and then there is this....while I am no fan of Mike Hogan, Mayor Brown has shown crossover support.  Curry continues to only show us big-name Republican supporters.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182305

I'll certainly give Brown credit for being bi-partisan. It's definitely one of his strengths. However, it hasn't made him a competent mayor, which is the real problem.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

vicupstate

QuoteExactly the same thing is true of the Democrats: if the party gave a damn, they wouldn't have dumped millions into electing an unproven nobody in 2011, and then re-electing him in 2015 even after he proved to be a disaster. Both parties are only involved here because this is an important region in state and national elections.

Curry is an unproved nobody as well.  At least Brown has already gone through the learning curve and will be term-limited.

Democrats supported Brown because they needed someone to run and he was willing and reasonably qualified. They only poured money into the race when it was obvious the GOP nominee was toxic. They saw a chance to break the iron grip of the GOP, and rightly took advantage of it.   They support him this time, because when you are the minority party and you have an incumbent that is not convicted of a crime, you support them. If Hogan had won and been a lousy mayor, the GOP would support him too.   

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