Bill Bishop endorses Mayor Alvin Brown for re-election

Started by thelakelander, April 30, 2015, 03:22:23 PM

fieldafm

Wait a minute... Bishop said something, and then flip flopped when it was politically expedient for him to do that?

That's NEVER happened before.

Well... except for this one time, where he pounded his chest and made a big stand on the Mobility Plan when over 80 people showed up to a City Council committee meeting on the subject and promised to create a new task force that would look at improving the entire plan instead of caving into the sullied interests of big bad developers.

Then, when he realized he was going to run for mayor and needed some campaign cash he scrapped the whole idea of the task force and instead backed legislation that essentially completely killed the rest of the Mobility Plan and which allowed a developer to reap millions from the City of Jacksonville... a move that backfired because said developer backed his opponent.

Yes, this is all completely shocking.

Cheshire Cat

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Quote from: fieldafm on May 01, 2015, 04:17:01 PM
Wait a minute... Bishop said something, and then flip flopped when it was politically expedient for him to do that?

That's NEVER happened before.

Well... except for this one time, where he pounded his chest and made a big stand on the Mobility Plan when over 80 people showed up to a City Council committee meeting on the subject and promised to create a new task force that would look at improving the entire plan instead of caving into the sullied interests of big bad developers.

Then, when he realized he was going to run for mayor and needed some campaign cash he scrapped the whole idea of the task force and instead backed legislation that essentially completely killed the rest of the Mobility Plan and which allowed a developer to reap millions from the City of Jacksonville... a move that backfired because said developer backed his opponent.

Yes, this is all completely shocking.
Mike, with all due respect.  Bishop simply made an endorsement.  If we want to do a breakdown of the past political decisions of all of those who make an endorsement we would be here until the next election cycle.  Lord have mercy, it's just an endorsement.  :) I am just saying that insulting Bishop at this point in order to underplay an endorsement for Brown isn't going to change much. 

Diane Melendez
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Cheshire Cat

Quote from: stephendare on May 01, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
yeah same level of shock that fills me to find Lenny Curry is still the undercutting, insinuating snake that he got a reputation for while trying to make sure that black people couldn't vote in elections.

Although I am shocked that he stooped to suggest that Bishop was breaking the law.
Did Curry actually say Bishop broke the law?  I missed that.  lol
Diane Melendez
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Cheshire Cat

Hahahaha.  I hadn't see that Stephen.  Bishop had the correct response, it's silly stuff! 
Diane Melendez
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Tacachale

Like it or not, this does look suspicious, considering that Bishop (1) is a Republican, (2) has spent the last 4 years talking about how bad of a mayor Brown is, and (3) just said he wouldn't endorse anyone in a press conference he called for that purpose. If he's really just picking the guy he thinks is better, that's cool, and right. But the question of whether there's some quid pro quo happening is a perfectly reasonable one to ask, considering how strange this is, and the response has been underwhelming. Especially considering he was the candidate who prided himself on answering questions. I hope there's nothing to it, because it really sucks if there is.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Jaxson

The main reason for Mr. Curry's real or feigned outrage is that he believes that he is being beaten at his own game.  Mind you, he's not a politician (wink) and that he would never resort to political machinations and skullduggery to get what he wants.  Everyone in Jacksonville should collectively clutch their pearls and find their fainting couch at the mere mention of one candidate's endorsement somehow offend the sensibilities of a challenger whose campaign resorted to running ads that drew their inspiration from 'Birth of a Nation'.  Let's not be mistaken here.  The former head of the state GOP wants to run up the score on Democrats after having their run of the board with governors and legislative races.  He is ready to spike the ball and take out a Democrat in a mayor's race one year before a presidential election.  Perhaps Mr. Bishop realizes this and wants to have a mayor who wants to lead our city and not a mayor who would use our city as a pawn on the national chessboard.
John Louis Meeks, Jr.

Jax native

Quote from: MEGATRON on May 01, 2015, 12:46:16 PM
http://floridapolitics.com/archives/182165-bill-bishops-endorsement-and-the-lost-decade-claim

I'm having a difficult time putting Tony's articles "unbiased" .  With Melissa Ross on First Coast Connect, he could very well had been Brian Hughes instead of A. G. Garcanski.  The idea he pushed about "Curry only running a clean and positive campaign" clearly was contradicted in the mailer I received yesterday, showing a very darked pic of Mayor brown, frowning, blaming Brown for '
Murder Rate has increased 35%".   I'm putting that "fact" 9if it really is one) straight in John Rutherford's hand and non activity.   Curry's giant mailer was horrible showing a group of white 'innocent' victims scared of rape and murder. 

It was ugly, a low, and if Tony sees this as positive campaign, he may be making some deals of his own.  Maybe a part time write would love a full time media gig w/ Curry?  If he wants to speculate, so am I. 

Cheshire Cat

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Quote from: Tacachale on May 01, 2015, 06:18:39 PM
Like it or not, this does look suspicious, considering that Bishop (1) is a Republican, (2) has spent the last 4 years talking about how bad of a mayor Brown is, and (3) just said he wouldn't endorse anyone in a press conference he called for that purpose. If he's really just picking the guy he thinks is better, that's cool, and right. But the question of whether there's some quid pro quo happening is a perfectly reasonable one to ask, considering how strange this is, and the response has been underwhelming. Especially considering he was the candidate who prided himself on answering questions. I hope there's nothing to it, because it really sucks if there is.
There is always some quid for quo at some level in political dealings.  Always.  I stopped clutching my pearls a long time ago.  Politics is manipulative, calculating and brutal at it's best that has always been so and likely will never change.  A simple endorsement is no big deal regardless of party.  There have been endorsements across party lines like crazy in this election cycle and their will be more in the future.  It really is no big deal.  I have been chuckling to myself all day about the feigned outrage though. I mean come on people.  :)
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!