The Different Faces of the Jacksonville Shipyards

[Keith-N-Jax]

Give it a rest I-10 your hatered of SF is showing big time. It was just a rendering. Those palm will not grow in North Florida. My goodness!!!!

[I-10east]

^^^Nope, I don't hate South Florida, despite many of them hating on Jacksonville (I witnessed many experiences of that). One of my best friends is from MIA, and I took him to the 2014 Phins game at EverBank Field. So you're saying that those tropical trees (if wholly shipped to Jax) would die, and cannot withstand the colder temps? I hope that's the case, and Khan goes with significantly cheaper subtropical substitutes.

I know that many times people are tired of my past takes; I only brought up this 'palm talk' because I liked the other failed proposals landscaping (on this thread) better than Khan's landscaping. Someone disagreed with me and responded to my post, then I responded to that post. Believe me, I'm not the one to like beating a dead horse, unlike you Keith and many that say "Blah blah blah (obviously much larger city) is far more advanced than lowly Jacksonville.

[Noone]

Any updates?

[marty904]

Not quite sure we're at the point of debating species of palm trees and foliage but I like the enthusiasm that this will get done! 

[tufsu1]

Any updates?

the deadline for submittals is April 29th.  At that time, the DIA can start the process of vetting each proposal and picking a winner.

[billy]

What is going on with the Shipyards?
Any news on the development proposal, cleanup, timeline, etc.?

[copperfiend]

What is going on with the Shipyards?
Any news on the development proposal, cleanup, timeline, etc.?

In a long standing Jacksonville tradition, nothing is going on.

[KenFSU]

So, the first $450,000 environmental study revealed that the site is contaminated beyond acceptable levels, and could not accurately assess the full scope or price of a cleanup without follow-up studies. This was almost two months ago. Does anyone know if anything has happened since then? The city has $300k in the coffers for additional investigation, with another $13 million set aside for cleanup. Is there any urgency?

[Jax-Nole]

So, the first $450,000 environmental study revealed that the site is contaminated beyond acceptable levels, and could not accurately assess the full scope or price of a cleanup without follow-up studies. This was almost two months ago. Does anyone know if anything has happened since then? The city has $300k in the coffers for additional investigation, with another $13 million set aside for cleanup. Is there any urgency?

I believe that Curry has $0 in his budget this year for cleanup, but $17.5 million planned for next year. So in theory, the cleanup of the site should start either later this year or next year, but I don't know how long it takes to cleanup a site that size.

[KenFSU]

^Thanks for the info!

[downtownbrown]

DIA still says that talks with Khan are productive and moving forward.  But they won't say anything else.  Rumor is that Lamping is sounding less excited than he has in the past.  Horse trading...

[jaxnyc79]

So, the first $450,000 environmental study revealed that the site is contaminated beyond acceptable levels, and could not accurately assess the full scope or price of a cleanup without follow-up studies. This was almost two months ago. Does anyone know if anything has happened since then? The city has $300k in the coffers for additional investigation, with another $13 million set aside for cleanup. Is there any urgency?

That study seems expensive to not give cleanup project pricing and scope indications.  Didn't we already know it was contaminated?  We paid nearly half a million to confirm it was contaminated without getting some cost estimates?

[simms3]

^^^Yea, smells fishy.  Who does these studies?

[hiddentrack]

So, the first $450,000 environmental study revealed that the site is contaminated beyond acceptable levels, and could not accurately assess the full scope or price of a cleanup without follow-up studies. This was almost two months ago. Does anyone know if anything has happened since then? The city has $300k in the coffers for additional investigation, with another $13 million set aside for cleanup. Is there any urgency?

That study seems expensive to not give cleanup project pricing and scope indications.  Didn't we already know it was contaminated?  We paid nearly half a million to confirm it was contaminated without getting some cost estimates?

I'm not sure how much that sort of thing should cost, but they did a bit more than just confirm the site was contaminated. Soil samples were taken and we have a (slightly fuzzy) map here showing where the contamination is above acceptable levels.

This WOKV article also sheds some light on why they didn't give a cost estimate:

Robinson says until they have a firm plan for the site development, he is not able to say how much remediation will cost and how long it could take. In part, that's because the different standards for residential and commercial use mean different levels of remediation needed.

"It would not be financially prudent to just go out and remediate 100% of the site," he says.

Of the potential steps which could be taken for remediation, Robinson says that's also subject to the final plan, but they have a few ideas.

"A cover of some depth and material type, or in some cases excavation and removal from the site," he says.

These findings are expected to firm up by the end of the month for the final report which will be submitted to the Department of Environmental Protection.

That last line also makes it sound like a final report should have been filed by the end of June.

[thelakelander]

Shipyards contamination map