JSO officer involved in shooting man at Cleveland Arms Apartments

[Jax native]

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2015-03-29/story/jacksonville-police-shoot-man-multiple-times-cleveland-arms

Is there anyone on here besides me, who listen to JSO media conference JSO Hackney gave a few hours ago and gave pause? I have a strange feeling this all doesn't add up?

[Jimmy]

Some of my friends in the activist community have said the alleged female victim has a much different version of events from what was indicated by JSO in the TU.  Word is she wasn't getting choked or strangled or whatever.  So, yeah, there could be more to the story yet to be told.

[tufsu1]

^ her interview that just aired on the news pretty much said just that

[Jax native]

I haven't seen her  interview, but JSO went out on some very fragile limbs in trying to justify the shooting immediately. It turned from a 911 domestic dispute to a "Violent domestic dispute". The officer say a man "strangling" a women from the window.......to finally saying he went inside and saw it. Strangling is NOT to be confused with choking someone, but JSO Hackney kept using that word.  He also said the man broke into the apartment w/ 3 kids & woman, something that was not a fact when JSO chasing him.  JSO had no idea if he knew the people (he did) or not.  Hackney made it out to be JSO saving woman and kids.  Something the officer did not know.  Why is there only one officer chasing this dude?  How did it get to a point where JSO had taser taken from him.  Does taser operate more than once without adjustments. How did a domestic dispute turn so violent?  The guy ran from police, but JSO had no idea what had happened, and why did he not just wait until getting an arrest warrant, as JSO saw people may be harmed.  Not by the suspect, by JSO running through apartments like wild guys.  JSO is out of control and the sheriff and others need to be accountable for these actions.  No one is.  JSO took these to level 1 violence.......they have to find a way to de escalate situations like this.  Especially since this apartment complex has a distrust of JSO said the pastor of nearby church.  JSO went full force, and shot a man while doing so.

[MEGATRON]

If a suspect in a crime is pointing a taser at a police officer, that he procured after fighting the officer, I hope the police officer shoots him.  I am tired of the excuses.  Stop blaming the JSO and start asking why JSO is continually asked to intervene as the same locations time after time.

[I-10east]

I'm gonna wait until facts arise before swiftly picking sides. Sadly many liberals are notoriously known for always siding with the 'victims' against the police, even if the 'victims' are very dangerous, about to kill someone etc; Especially if the story is painted as 'a racial issue'. The national media's race pimping is extremely irresponsible, and has already caused countless lives that aren't plastered all over the national news! Pimping the race card is very lucrative, and it's very real!

[sheclown]

I'm gonna wait until facts arise before swiftly picking sides. Sadly many liberals are notoriously known for always siding with the 'victims' against the police, even if the 'victims' are very dangerous, about to kill someone etc; Especially if the story is painted as 'a racial issue'. The national media's race pimping is extremely irresponsible, and has already caused countless lives that aren't plastered all over the national news! Pimping the race card is very lucrative, and it's very real!

[Jax native]

I'm gonna wait until facts arise before swiftly picking sides. Sadly many liberals are notoriously known for always siding with the 'victims' against the police, even if the 'victims' are very dangerous, about to kill someone etc; Especially if the story is painted as 'a racial issue'. The national media's race pimping is extremely irresponsible, and has already caused countless lives that aren't plastered all over the national news! Pimping the race card is very lucrative, and it's very real!

Do you realize how close minded and simplistic this kind of thinking is? Those  "liberals.....siding with the "victims'" ?? What are you talking about.

"Wait until the facts arise" ....where do you think you will facts rising?  JSO presentation  is all you will hear.  YOu will hear JSO Hackney choosing his words carefully to not answer questions to to only justify JSO shooting a man.  JSO has no problem waiting for facts...Hackney gave media conference mere hours after.  NO talking to witness, victim, neighbors, or anyone except JSO's side.  Hackney kept saying m,an was "strangling a woman"  NO he wasn't...If he had his hands around her throat or face, he was "choking" her.  Very bid difference and the two are not compatible.

Your judgementals al with thousands of people who have been brainwashed that all police are good, NO  matter what.  Probably all government is bad no matter what. 

There are citizens who care about the city and abuses made by JSO, SAO and city of Jacksonville.  It's time to open them up and let sunshine in. 

[Jax native]

Is there anyone on here who absolutely will agree with whatever President Obama states?  Do you believe everything Obama says or everything the Democratic party says?  If not, why would you give complete power to JSO and police to agree with every thing they say?  Do you not believe JSO is made up od many different people, some have bias, while some do activities you wouldn't agree with.

Do you believe every single thing Mayor Brown says?  Do you agree with every thing Mayor Brown has done?  How can you have absolute belief in JSO ignoring any other government, state or city positions? 

If you believe all Obama says, all Mayor Brown says, hen I totally understand why you have no doubt in JSO.  I'm not sure trusting this positions 100% is proper way for citizens to be informed and ask the tough questions. 

As citizens of USA, there is always a time to question authority.  A primary reason we were born with brains and not pre programmed.

[MEGATRON]

Is there anyone on here who absolutely will agree with whatever President Obama states?  Do you believe everything Obama says or everything the Democratic party says?  If not, why would you give complete power to JSO and police to agree with every thing they say?  Do you not believe JSO is made up od many different people, some have bias, while some do activities you wouldn't agree with.

Do you believe every single thing Mayor Brown says?  Do you agree with every thing Mayor Brown has done?  How can you have absolute belief in JSO ignoring any other government, state or city positions? 

If you believe all Obama says, all Mayor Brown says, hen I totally understand why you have no doubt in JSO.  I'm not sure trusting this positions 100% is proper way for citizens to be informed and ask the tough questions. 

As citizens of USA, there is always a time to question authority.  A primary reason we were born with brains and not pre programmed.

I don't think anyone is arguing that we should not consider all the facts.  Not sure what the point of all your ranting is.

[I-10east]

Do you realize how close minded and simplistic this kind of thinking is? Those  "liberals.....siding with the "victims'" ?? What are you talking about.

I'm sticking to what I said 100%. Notice that I didn't say ALL liberals. You are the one that's 'close minded' as you're brainwashed by whatever the left leaning media portrays. I like to think for myself, instead of being a spokesperson for the left. 

"Wait until the facts arise" ....where do you think you will facts rising?  JSO presentation  is all you will hear.  YOu will hear JSO Hackney choosing his words carefully to not answer questions to to only justify JSO shooting a man.  JSO has no problem waiting for facts...Hackney gave media conference mere hours after.  NO talking to witness, victim, neighbors, or anyone except JSO's side.  Hackney kept saying m,an was "strangling a woman"  NO he wasn't...If he had his hands around her throat or face, he was "choking" her.  Very bid difference and the two are not compatible.

Your judgementals al with thousands of people who have been brainwashed that all police are good, NO  matter what.  Probably all government is bad no matter what. 

There are citizens who care about the city and abuses made by JSO, SAO and city of Jacksonville.  It's time to open them up and let sunshine in.

Like I said, I'm not jumping to any final conclusions so early on with this incident. You act like you're Sherlock Holmes, and already have the case solved or something. I never said that the police are right 100% of the time, you put those words in my mouth.

[Jax native]

Thanks for head up, Stephen, I'm out w/ talking to him.  The fact is I did not say he was like was he is accusing me of saying.  Similar to the thoughts of another poster who can rant and rave, but then wants every one to use factual links to comments.  There ain't enough vodka in Jacksonville to get me to go there again!

[I-10east]

^^^Like the 'accusations of me saying all cops are right no matter what'? Okay...I could go on and on about liberals continually putting blacks in a perpetual state of victimhood, and lowering standards like 'ebonics' and on and on. When someone can't continue a debate, I detect signs of weakness; That's okay because as an old school brotha, I live this ish everyday. I don't need no one's victimhood, I take one-hundred percent full responsibility for all my actions!!!

[I-10east]

The quote from the neighbor who called 911 at Cleveland Arms

There is a man, he is irate. There are three children outside the steps. I swear he is beating the s#*t out of this girl. I don't know him but I am calling and you all need to come out here. Yeah, he done put the kids outside and he beating her.

You don't even have to believe the cops if you don't want to, just listen to the neighbor! Yeah, it doesn't sound like Mr Devanta Jones is exactly an upstanding citizen that some is trying to portray. IMO, I bet that woman is used to getting beat on, and she decided to protect him; That is very common in the hood. It's looking like this supposed 'racially motivated officer shooting case' has as much weight as a hummingbird feather.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/man-shot-by-officer-charged-with-battery-burglary/32085610

[sheclown]

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