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Started by Metro Jacksonville, March 24, 2015, 10:40:01 AM

Tacachale

Quote from: vicupstate on March 25, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: edjax on March 24, 2015, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on March 24, 2015, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: edjax on March 24, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
One Dem and one Rep in my HH. Both votes went to Bishop. In the runoff most likely both will now go to Brown.
Ed, I hope it does.  Someone pinch me....did I just say that?  lol  I absolutely did.  I think Curry and his brand of politics is pure poison.


Yea. To me now pretty much like 2011.  Scary Hogan then and now Scary Curry.  Brown wins.

Don't discount the possibility of a repeat of 2003, Glover vs. Peyton.  Glover, the Democrat lead in the first race only to lose in the runoff, and it was not that close either.  This is a Republican city and Curry doesn't have a record to defend.  He can be all things to all people.  He can promise not to raise taxes. He can tie the very unpopular (to the right) President to Brown. Jeb wants to be sure he can carry FL in two years.  If his handlers can keep him on cue cards, Curry can absolutely win the runoff.

Here's hoping.

Quote from: vicupstate on March 25, 2015, 08:54:51 AM
QuoteBrown - Wow, everyone thought he was going to run away with it.

No. Not even close to being true.

Come on. Alvin's people thought they were going to get out of this without a runoff, and they didn't even come close. They more or less admitted it last night, and those folks seem to be hired for their ability never to say anything.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

vicupstate

Quote from: Tacachale on March 25, 2015, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: vicupstate on March 25, 2015, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: edjax on March 24, 2015, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on March 24, 2015, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: edjax on March 24, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
One Dem and one Rep in my HH. Both votes went to Bishop. In the runoff most likely both will now go to Brown.
Ed, I hope it does.  Someone pinch me....did I just say that?  lol  I absolutely did.  I think Curry and his brand of politics is pure poison.


Yea. To me now pretty much like 2011.  Scary Hogan then and now Scary Curry.  Brown wins.

Don't discount the possibility of a repeat of 2003, Glover vs. Peyton.  Glover, the Democrat lead in the first race only to lose in the runoff, and it was not that close either.  This is a Republican city and Curry doesn't have a record to defend.  He can be all things to all people.  He can promise not to raise taxes. He can tie the very unpopular (to the right) President to Brown. Jeb wants to be sure he can carry FL in two years.  If his handlers can keep him on cue cards, Curry can absolutely win the runoff.

Here's hoping.

Quote from: vicupstate on March 25, 2015, 08:54:51 AM
QuoteBrown - Wow, everyone thought he was going to run away with it.

No. Not even close to being true.

Come on. Alvin's people thought they were going to get out of this without a runoff, and they didn't even come close. They more or less admitted it last night, and those folks seem to be hired for their ability never to say anything.

People inside the campaign have blinders on. There hopes blind them to the real picture. People outside of the campaign were not saying that. The UNF poll certainly didn't support that notion.  An incumbent below 50% is in trouble and one at 37% is definitely in trouble.     
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Quote from: Tacachale on March 25, 2015, 09:58:43 AM
Come on. Alvin's people thought they were going to get out of this without a runoff, and they didn't even come close. They more or less admitted it last night, and those folks seem to be hired for their ability never to say anything.

I think that might have been the viewpoint at this time last year or even last fall....but nobody of importance (inside or outside the campaign) recently thought he would get to 50% +1 last night.

This will be a tough race, but with good turnout I see Alvin pulling in about 53% of the vote in May.

Cheshire Cat

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Quote from: mtraininjax on March 24, 2015, 11:23:29 PM
Wow, Bishop won 4 precincts? granted he won mine in District 14, but still, whatever he was selling, whatever message he had for voters, it was obvious that the citizens of Jacksonville......were not buying it. He was just 8 years of the past and his ghost has been exercised. He is the candidate of choice in 2019? Eh-Ghad!

Brown - Wow, everyone thought he was going to run away with it. Well, he didn't, and apparently he is not as popular in some districts as others thought, apparently he has not done a "great" job the last 4 years. So at least the "I'm with Alvin" crowd has some really soul searching to do over the next 8 weeks to figure out, how a guy with no local political experience could get into a race with the guy who was able to win an election in 2011, just by being someone different, someone for change. As he has been painted since day 1, Brown is the Willy Lomax of Mayors, not hot, not cold, just lukewarm. Sorry Mayor Brown, you will have to win this election on your own and you will not be able to blame City Council for your errors, or maybe you can with Bishop, blame him, as its his fault you could not clear 50%.

No matter, see its a conspiracy and the name is Toney Sleiman. 4 years ago Sleiman backed the loser to Brown and this year he is going to back the loser again, only this time it will be Brown. Sleiman is issue. Keep him in the camp, keep him close, he is an anchor around Brown's feet.
mtrain.  Looking at that map tells me something else entirely.  Remember that Brown and Curry had over 2 million each to campaign with.  Bill went out there with less than 100k.  At the start of this race neither he nor Curry had much name recognition outside of Curry with state GOP and those who knew Bill as a member of council.  This map shows that where Bill Bishop actually had time to physically campaign and share his ideas and knowledge, the people overwhelmingly supported him.  The districts he took are also telling in that it is clear he appealed to voters looking for substance as opposed to party or glitz.  Had Bishop had the money of Brown or Curry he would have been able to saturate the media like they did with his message, a positive one and expertise.  Had he been on equal ground with funding, he would be in this run off race for sure.  As it is there is no need to dismiss or underplay the positive roll he played in this election nor ignore the fact that in spite of what you might think, Bishop would make and informed, engaged and exceptional mayor.  I hope to see him well funded and back in 2019. For many people including me his time and experience in office made him a strong candidate not a person to be discarded now or in the future.  :)
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Quote from: mtraininjax on March 24, 2015, 11:23:29 PM
Wow, Bishop won 4 precincts? granted he won mine in District 14, but still, whatever he was selling, whatever message he had for voters, it was obvious that the citizens of Jacksonville......were not buying it. He was just 8 years of the past and his ghost has been exercised. He is the candidate of choice in 2019? Eh-Ghad!

Brown - Wow, everyone thought he was going to run away with it. Well, he didn't, and apparently he is not as popular in some districts as others thought, apparently he has not done a "great" job the last 4 years. So at least the "I'm with Alvin" crowd has some really soul searching to do over the next 8 weeks to figure out, how a guy with no local political experience could get into a race with the guy who was able to win an election in 2011, just by being someone different, someone for change. As he has been painted since day 1, Brown is the Willy Lomax of Mayors, not hot, not cold, just lukewarm. Sorry Mayor Brown, you will have to win this election on your own and you will not be able to blame City Council for your errors, or maybe you can with Bishop, blame him, as its his fault you could not clear 50%.

No matter, see its a conspiracy and the name is Toney Sleiman. 4 years ago Sleiman backed the loser to Brown and this year he is going to back the loser again, only this time it will be Brown. Sleiman is issue. Keep him in the camp, keep him close, he is an anchor around Brown's feet.

I sincerely wish it would be more enjoyable to read your thoughts saying the exact thongs, even using exact verbage on every single political thread.  We read it the 1st, 2nd, 28th time.  People didn't buy what Bishop sold.  Broen in bad and all Democrats lie.

We got it.  I feel it would be much more engaging if you would present different thoughts, reasons, or reactions than the exact same one every day on every thread.  When I see your posts, I just go to the next....I've heard the same thing...Mtrain...we hear the same thing.  If I post this on every single thread saying the same thing....it makes no difference because I am saying it now.  I wish you nothing less than being happy, but you would be more interesting with a different thought or post.