2nd Jacksonville Mayoral Debate 2015

Started by Metro Jacksonville, March 22, 2015, 03:05:03 AM

Metro Jacksonville

2nd Jacksonville Mayoral Debate 2015



The second mayoral debate hosted by WJXT and Jacksonville University's Public Policy Institute.



Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-mar-2nd-jacksonville-mayoral-debate-2015

ronchamblin

#1
A candidate's TV ads and web sites are designed and scripted by professionals to attempt persuading voters that their candidate/client is best qualified.  While some images and statements are true, most represent distortion, disinformation, and hype.  Such is the habit.

While propaganda is somewhat entertaining and expected, it costs money, lots of money for TV ads.  However, if voters are taken in with the bulls**t, it is possible for the candidate most supported by big money to actually win even though he or she lacks the attributes to be a great mayor.  Jacksonville doesn't need more mediocrity.   

The televised debate is where the true essence of a candidate emerges.  There are no advisers on stage to think, speak, and write for the candidate, and therefore any deficiencies in vision, character, or problem solving abilities will spill out for all to see.  Anyone who has viewed the two mayoral debates, and cannot decide who is best qualified to be mayor might want to view the above video ... along with the first debate video.

Lenny Curry, the candidate with the most money to spend, came across as the most unqualified to be mayor.  Fortunately for Jacksonville, as a consequence of the emergence of his true colors via the debates, his support has dwindled with each passing day.   

Whereas Omega Allen and Bill Bishop were sincere, knowledgeable on important issues, and genuine -- and actually offered sound answers to questions -- both Curry and Brown avoided pointed questions entirely as they simply repeated scripted statements, often totally unrelated to questions or issues.  Curry and Brown are only politicians.  We need a knowledgeable individual as mayor -- perceptive in realms where needed, skilled at thinking through solutions, committed to the average citizen and not to the game of  politics as supported by big money and special interests.

Bill Bishop is the man best qualified to be mayor of Jacksonville.

mtraininjax

QuoteThe televised debate is where the true essence of a candidate emerges.

If the next mayor for 4 years is found based on Q & A over a 1 hour period, lord help us.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field


strider

I think anyone would be hard pressed not to find both negatives and positives in the four candidates for Mayor.  I think one has to pick out what is important to oneself and concentrate on those issues otherwise, you can get overwhelmed.  I also think many do get overwhelmed and that is why the negative ads the propaganda work; most just don't bother to research past them. A couple of one hour debates can show you what a candidate thinks about an issue important to you. Frankly, even if you based your decision on the debates, that is much better than using a "quick pick" or depending on the negative ads. People simply often do not perceive themselves having the time to research who is best.  Which is why millions get spent campaigning.  The ads and the money work.

In this race, the odds are favoring a Brown and Curry match up. That fact alone has and will lead many to vote for one of those candidates even when they may feel Bishop or Allen would be the better Mayor. 

Personally, I think there is little chance that anyone will win outright at this time.  To me, that means a vote for Bishop will not be wasted no matter what ends up happening.  If you feel he is the best candidate, vote for Bishop.  If you feel Brown is, then vote for him.  Just don't vote for Brown or Curry because you don't think Bishop (or Allen, for that matter) can win.  That is what will be a wasted vote.

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

Cheshire Cat

#5
Quote from: ronchamblin on March 22, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
A candidate's TV ads and web sites are designed and scripted by professionals to attempt persuading voters that their candidate/client is best qualified.  While some images and statements are true, most represent distortion, disinformation, and hype.  Such is the habit.

While propaganda is somewhat entertaining and expected, it costs money, lots of money for TV ads.  However, if voters are taken in with the bulls**t, it is possible for the candidate most supported by big money to actually win even though he or she lacks the attributes to be a great mayor.  Jacksonville doesn't need more mediocrity.   

The televised debate is where the true essence of a candidate emerges.  There are no advisers on stage to think, speak, and write for the candidate, and therefore any deficiencies in vision, character, or problem solving abilities will spill out for all to see.  Anyone who has viewed the two mayoral debates, and cannot decide who is best qualified to be mayor might want to view the above video ... along with the first debate video.

Lenny Curry, the candidate with the most money to spend, came across as the most unqualified to be mayor.  Fortunately for Jacksonville, as a consequence of the emergence of his true colors via the debates, his support has dwindled with each passing day.   

Whereas Omega Allen and Bill Bishop were sincere, knowledgeable on important issues, and genuine -- and actually offered sound answers to questions -- both Curry and Brown avoided pointed questions entirely as they simply repeated scripted statements, often totally unrelated to questions or issues.  Curry and Brown are only politicians.  We need a knowledgeable individual as mayor -- perceptive in realms where needed, skilled at thinking through solutions, committed to the average citizen and not to the game of  politics as supported by big money and special interests.

Bill Bishop is the man best qualified to be mayor of Jacksonville.
To your point Ron with respect to MTrain, people can and do make decisions about who they will support based upon a single debate, sound bite or political ad.  :)   I have an interesting story base upon just this topic.  Last Friday evening I was at a gathering that was not political in nature.  A woman from Ortega walked up to me and mentioned that she knew who I was and that I was supporting Bill Bishop for mayor.  She went on to explain that she was a long time friend of Lenny Curry and how much she liked him.  She then said that she wanted to share something with me.  She proceeded to say that she was at a debate watching party in Ortega.  The folks there were mostly Curry supporters including one man who had put 10k into his campaign and bundled other donations for him.  Everyone intently listened to the debate and at it's end the man who was the big donor, stood up and said, "What the hell was that?" followed by "I just wasted $10,000.00" and then "Curry is clearly not ready for the office of mayor, what a mess of a debate performance, who coached him?"  Then after a few moments he announced "I am going to vote for Bill Bishop"  He then proceeded to call others he got donations from to encourage they do the same. I remarked to the woman sharing the story that information and experience does indeed trump packaging and sound bites.  She agreed and then leaned in to tell me, "that's why I also voted for Bill Bishop!"
Diane Melendez
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