Presentation for: New Southbank Riverwalk

[coredumped]

Redman is not happy with the width, and, I never thought I'd say this, but I actually agree with him.

http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/kwidget/wid/_557781/uiconf_id/20678232/entry_id/0_fzolp5m1

http://www.news4jax.com/news/new-southbank-riverwalk-new-problems/31216596

[Marle Brando]

Well that was a major fumble. Makes you wonder how in the world did anyone in planning think 4.5ft clearance is enough. Redman is right on this one. The circular benches are attractive but removing them and replacing with the straight benches is the right call.

[Noone]

Stay positive! This is a job for the Hemming Park bench removing team.

[thelakelander]

Yes, Redman is 100% right. I just wonder why this issue never came up during the design phase.

[coredumped]

The presentation (on this thread) had much more generous space:


but I'm guessing these are just sketches and are never close to scale?

[peestandingup]

That's awful & incredibly shortsighted planning. They're gonna have to take those benches out & put straight ones all the way back to the edge of the opposite end if they wanna do this properly.

There's also a bottleneck on the northbank in front of the landing restaurants thats needed addressing since forever. Wheelchairs, bikes, bike trailers, etc can never ever get through there if there's even one single person in front of you or coming in the opposite direction.

We'll talk about the main street bridge path narrowness another day.

[Charles Hunter]

Who does their design review?  sheesh

[vicupstate]

The benches and those canvas things need to just come out altogether. The path is too narrow even without them.

[thelakelander]

I agree. All of that will need to be removed if the thought is to allow both cyclists and pedestrians on it.

[Josh]

Why am I not surprised.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Yes, Redman is 100% right. I just wonder why this issue never came up during the design phase.

This!

Everything after 'but' is complete bullshit. 

Maybe to be eligible for, well.... breathing?!?  a person should have to pass the most basic blueprint reading course, watch a youtube video or something...  Courthouse/Monroe St ring a bell?

Because Jacksonville.....

[tufsu1]

The benches and those canvas things need to just come out altogether. The path is too narrow even without them.

The canvas canopies offer shade which will is very important.  As CM redman notes, it is a pretty easy fix.  Just remove the circular benches and put straight benches on either side of the canopy poles.  That will provide 8+ feet of walking space.

[Tacachale]

Redman's right, removing the round benches and replacing with straight ones will help some, but the bottom line is, that walkway is too narrow to begin with. How did this happen?

[PeeJayEss]

The benches and those canvas things need to just come out altogether. The path is too narrow even without them.

The canvas canopies offer shade which will is very important.  As CM redman notes, it is a pretty easy fix.  Just remove the circular benches and put straight benches on either side of the canopy poles.  That will provide 8+ feet of walking space.

Every single feature on the walkway (railings, canopies, and benches) is designed to reduce usable space. The benches are egregious, but the rest is dumb as well. The path is too narrow to begin with. Shade is a nice thought, but those canopy poles are low and built onto the inside of the railing. You would hit your head on them riding on a bike, the guys in the vid look like they would have to crouch if they were on that side of the path. The railings are much wider than they need to be and curve inward on the path!
Basically, everything bad. Bunch of fancy pavers and silly features when all they really needed was a big concrete path with railings.

[tpot]

Jacksonville at its best........even with straight benches that river walk is tiny........not surprised.......