A decade since Super Bowl XXXIX

Started by Downtown Osprey, January 27, 2015, 05:19:42 PM

02roadking

Springfield since 1998

02roadking

At least the weather Game Day turned out nice.

Springfield since 1998

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: KenFSU on January 27, 2015, 11:48:50 PM
In my opinion though, we should stay as far away from the host city discussion as possible until we get our house in order. Take all those resources and instead focus them on building up our core, enhancing the night life, putting the mass transit in place, improving our infrastructure, creating day-to-day demand for additional hotel beds, and pushing all of the small-minded, backwoods trash out of our city government.

That way, when the game does come back to Jacksonville in a decade or two, we'll be ready to deliver a beautiful "fuck you" to the doubters.

TL;DR - Rather than beg your high-maintenance, gold-digging ex to come back; hit the gym, see a dentist and get an income that doesn't require you to look at the balance on an ATM receipt.  When you see her on the street 15 years later, let her make the first move.
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ProjectMaximus

that's cute...but that's not how Super Bowl bidding works. We can hit the gym as much as we want (and we should) but we won't ever get them to make the first move.

anyway, it's all about baby steps and hitting smaller milestones that will get us where we want to be in the long run. Things like the World Games which Birmingham, AL will host in 2021.

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David

Quote from: 02roadking on January 28, 2015, 11:15:28 AM
At least the weather Game Day turned out nice.



Ok, my memory must've failed me  when i said it didn't seem busier than FL/GA weekend. in this image it certainty looks way busier than the average FLA/GA event .

finehoe

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on January 28, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
that's cute...but that's not how Super Bowl bidding works. We can hit the gym as much as we want (and we should) but we won't ever get them to make the first move.

Which brings us to the question, why bother?

Quotenumerous economists have looked in vain for any evidence that Super Bowl host cities strike it rich.

http://fair.org/home/the-super-bowl-windfall-myth/

Quotethe nation's sports economists, who say the actual number is a fair bit lower. Like, maybe, zero. "There still remains no ex post evidence of an economic impact," says University of South Florida professor Philip Porter, almost audibly sighing over email since, as someone who's been studying this topic for more than a decade, he gets the same question every year at this time. "Super Bowl attendees simply don't buy much that the local economy sells."

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/66544296/

QuoteThe mayor of Glendale, Ariz., the host of Super Bowl XLIX, expects his city will lose money staging the game. "I totally believe we will lose money on this," mayor Jerry Weiers told ESPN's Mina Kimes.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/20/super-bowl-xlix-glendale-mayor-lose-money

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on January 28, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
that's cute...but that's not how Super Bowl bidding works. We can hit the gym as much as we want (and we should) but we won't ever get them to make the first move.

anyway, it's all about baby steps and hitting smaller milestones that will get us where we want to be in the long run. Things like the World Games which Birmingham, AL will host in 2021.

I understand that's not how it works.  Even LA can't get the NFL to make a move, per se, but we should at least do the other stuff regardless.

We were awarded a pity party.  To use another analogy, essentially, we were "Carrie" and the Superbowl was our prom.  Difference is, we never made it out of the gym.  It burned down around us.
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spuwho

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 28, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on January 28, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
that's cute...but that's not how Super Bowl bidding works. We can hit the gym as much as we want (and we should) but we won't ever get them to make the first move.

anyway, it's all about baby steps and hitting smaller milestones that will get us where we want to be in the long run. Things like the World Games which Birmingham, AL will host in 2021.

I understand that's not how it works.  Even LA can't get the NFL to make a move, per se, but we should at least do the other stuff regardless.

We were awarded a pity party.  To use another analogy, essentially, we were "Carrie" and the Superbowl was our prom.  Difference is, we never made it out of the gym.  It burned down around us.

I used to think that until the NFL started awarding Super Bowls to cold weather cities. Turns out the warm weather Super Bowl was just a Rozelle/Tagliabue thing so the owners could get together and play golf.

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Quote from: finehoe on January 28, 2015, 01:40:20 PM


Which brings us to the question, why bother?

Quotenumerous economists have looked in vain for any evidence that Super Bowl host cities strike it rich.

http://fair.org/home/the-super-bowl-windfall-myth/





With great fanfare,I was involved with Jax Super Bowl boating activities downtown,temporary docks,all to put Jacksonville on the "Yachting" map.What a waste of time.
Driving home from Downtown at the height of Super Bowl activity,I will never forget the image of The Brick in Avondale- one customer at the bar.