"Police arrest demonstrators in Hart Bridge protest during evening rush hour"

Started by sheclown, December 09, 2014, 06:45:34 AM

coredumped

Stephen is right (oh that's hard to say!) This is not a racial thing. Well, not really. True, these people wouldn't be protesting if the deceased was white, however, this affects all of us.
The police don't have too much power, they have too many laws that they can enforce. The problem isn't the police, the problem is the laws. They wouldn't have harassed him if he was selling cookies on the street.

Again, this is what happens when you get bigger government, you asked for it, here you go!
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peestandingup

Quote from: stephendare on December 09, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: Jameson on December 09, 2014, 05:52:46 PM
Why are they not protesting demanding justice for Thomas McIntree's family?

I know you hate it when people get mad that the 'blacks' have been murdered by the cops, Jameson, but the national protests are about police procedure for everyone, not just a racial group.

If thats what they're doing, then the message honestly seems muddled & convoluted. They need better organization, to protest against more focused entities, stop the "shutitdown" stuff (that only harms people like themselves, not to mention gets them arrested). I still see protesters with their "hands up" as well in this & other cities. I know its prob more symbolic now, but it started with Mike Brown (which was false) & went from there. These started right after Ferguson, so I don't think its out of the realm to say a lot of protesters still think its because of that incident.

Like I said, focus, organize & protest against the right people.

Jameson

Quote from: stephendare on December 09, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: Jameson on December 09, 2014, 05:52:46 PM
Why are they not protesting demanding justice for Thomas McIntree's family?

I know you hate it when people get mad that the 'blacks' have been murdered by the cops, Jameson, but the national protests are about police procedure for everyone, not just a racial group.

Im pretty sure you will want some safeguards in place when cops are looking at the activities of right wing groups.

"I know you hate it when people get mad that the 'blacks' have been murdered by the cops, Jameson"

You are so damn out of line with that comment.

You say it's not about race, but the mantra is #BlackLivesMatter not #AllLivesMatter. Why not "All Lives Matter" if this is truly about police procedure for everyone?

Because it isn't. The Mike Brown and Eric Garner cases have been hijacked by those who wish to make this about race (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the CBC, etc.) and the useful idiots that were part of the Occupy movement that have also latched on in all of the major cities to push their agenda.

None of those people represent me. They are doing me zero favors by "protesting".

coredumped

For those of you who say "a black man was shot in so and so neighborhood, where are all the protests?" Here ya go:

http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/kwidget/wid/_557781/uiconf_id/20678232/entry_id/0_24osr4bw

http://www.news4jax.com/news/protests-block-streets-near-murder-scene/30164024

Best quote from the article:
Quote"What's changing is the validation for the life. Is it only valid or newsworthy when an officer does that in the line of duty? Absolutely not. Every loss of life is important."
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camarocane

Quote from: coredumped on December 11, 2014, 09:27:56 AM
For those of you who say "a black man was shot in so and so neighborhood, where are all the protests?" Here ya go:


One protest out of the hundreds of black on black crimes that have been comitted does not count as "all the protests".... but good for them. I did not watch that video but I'm certain Al or Jesse will not be protesting along side these folks. Im also sure Obama doesnt even know about this kid, much less will make mention of it.

Coolyfett

Good to see Duval getting involved. I understand the protest. What I really love is the annoyed irritation that "some" feel....its good, now you CAN FEEL that same irritation many of us black guys have felt. That feeling of unfairness, that feeling of having to be good perfect black boys "carlton banks" types just to get our fair share. You people are really saying protesters should be struck by vehicles because traffic is backed up? Why is your life so important, but no one elses is? Just sit there, be apart of history and shut the fukk up. If some of you refuse to understand the point of view of the protesters, then you should be made to understand. This will come in making random people suffer, by stealing their time away from them. Hey at lease you didn't lose your life........
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simms3

I'm SOOOOOOO sick of these protests.  Really, at this point the vast majority of protesters are completely naive young liberal white people who have no clue about the world and are sociopathic to the point where they are using "protests" to incite violence, looting, and continued degradation of places already rife with strife.

I can't side with anyone even siding with the protests.  Yesterday 2 undercover cops here in the Bay were "outed" as cops and the crowd turned on them, immediately, taking one to the ground.  Meanwhile, the CHP was merely there to find the really bad perps and arrest them (along the route the whole crowd is yelling anti-semitic, anti-gay, AND misogynistic remarks and smashing windows and stealing store merchandise).  It got intense enough where one officer had to pull out his gun to defend his partner and call for back up.

Of course the SF Chron had the headline of "Cop pulls out a Gun on Protesters" and you had to read the actual story to get the context, but judging from the comments in the reader section, people in the Bay Area have HAD IT.

I absolutely hate these protesters with all my  might.  They dilute the message and are all simply sociopaths looking for an opportunity/outlet to release their sociopathic tendencies.  I'm waiting for the day the cops start using real force, you know, heads exploding and all.  I guarantee you since there is only a TINY crowd of these idiots and most everyday citizens hate their guts that the protests will end immediately and people will be happy.
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simms3

Quote from: peestandingup on December 09, 2014, 05:47:55 PM


The one on the bottom right apparently struck an officer & is being held on felony charges.

No way I'd join this crew. They look clueless.


Looks like a nice, well-intentioned crowd! They get it, we don't, therefore we should join them in "protesting" whatever it is they are protesting at this point.  OMG Occupy Movement all over again.  These people are all worthless as human beings.  I honestly don't think they deserve a chance at anything.  I hope none of them are taking handouts, however, we all know that's certainly not the case.  Our incomes are all being reduced to support these losers and their activities.
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I-10east

^^^I feel your frustration with this superficial meme-esque 'activism'. It isn't any way that the majority of these protesters actually have a life. I know that you witnessed tons of f*ckery over there in Frisco. People are just trying to go on with their daily lives (normal commute, sporting events etc), and these jerkwads bring their gloomy and dismal existence upon everyone in their midst.

ben4prez

Introduced a noob activist to Beth at SOE today. She was inspired by the protest. Wants to put a referendum together to immediately dismiss police involved in the death of an unarmed citizen and treat them as a civilian. It'll never get on the ballot as it is. But give it a year or two and it will morph into something actionable and progressive. She's 23. She's the future.

camarocane

Quote from: Coolyfett on December 11, 2014, 06:21:55 PM
Good to see Duval getting involved. I understand the protest. What I really love is the annoyed irritation that "some" feel....its good, now you CAN FEEL that same irritation many of us black guys have felt. That feeling of unfairness, that feeling of having to be good perfect black boys "carlton banks" types just to get our fair share. You people are really saying protesters should be struck by vehicles because traffic is backed up? Why is your life so important, but no one elses is? Just sit there, be apart of history and shut the fukk up. If some of you refuse to understand the point of view of the protesters, then you should be made to understand. This will come in making random people suffer, by stealing their time away from them. Hey at lease you didn't lose your life........

And making random people suffer will prove what? Doing so pulls people away from whatever "cause" they are pursuing. They are protesting because some stupid black kid robbed a store, attacked a cop and got what he deserved. Is this why many blacks are irritated? If so, good! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.  I have tried to understand the point of these protests, Im fairly certain I have the gist of it #blacklivesmatter, "hands up don't shoot", etc. If this is the case, why don't we have protestors marching from Grand Park to City Hall every time a black is gunned down? DO their lives matter less than the idiots who rob a store and attack a cop? From what I gather, some folks on this site say its about the militarization of police (StephenDare Im sure you'll be commenting) . If so, why even bring race into the topic? Was MB shot by a bazooka? RPG? Did that evil white devil cop run over him with a Sherman Tank? Why even bring MB into the protest if that is what this is really about?

camarocane

Quote from: stephendare on December 11, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
heavens to betsy, camarocane.  You were 'suffering' because there was a traffic jam?  Poor thing.  Take those nasty terrible agitators away and torture them.

Imagine how Eric Garner felt, or the families of all those people murdered by cops with no fear of reprisals.

Why does it take you being held up in traffic to notice that other people are actually suffering?

Theres that passive aggressive StephenDare we all know and love :)
Never said I was suffering nor held up in traffic,  Being "murdered" by a cop is just one opinion. Once again, if the cop tells you to get on the ground, don't argue... better yet, DONT BREAK THE LAW

I-10east

If I see a protester, I'm going the other way. I'm black and these people do not represent me. Even though I'm not down with this selective outrage agenda, I'm actually okay with them protesting in a civilized manner in places like Hemming Park, but when you interfere with traffic, loot, burn down buildings, burn police cars etc etc, you are wrong!!! If you're black and doing violent actions, you're only giving into the nasty stereotypes. 

I'm black, but I'm also an individual. One big problem in the black community is this 'hive mentality' in which everyone have to think the exact same way. This mentality is an extreme detriment to the black community. It's well known that black kids who speak good English are ridiculed by students and even teachers, as they are said to "Talk white". This mentality is the reason why we are last in everything (test scores, bad neighborhoods, violent crime etc).

Look at other ethnic groups, they put us to shame (Hispanics etc). Other immigrants neighborhoods have very little to virtually no violent crime, they help each others families, they don't litter their streets, no broken bus stop shelters etc. Look at any crime census, and it will back up everything what I'm saying with the ethnic crime stats. Do you think that I'm saying this because I'm proud of this shit?!!! You are sadly mistaken.   

camarocane

Quote from: stephendare on December 11, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: camarocane on December 11, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
Quote from: stephendare on December 11, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
heavens to betsy, camarocane.  You were 'suffering' because there was a traffic jam?  Poor thing.  Take those nasty terrible agitators away and torture them.

Imagine how Eric Garner felt, or the families of all those people murdered by cops with no fear of reprisals.

Why does it take you being held up in traffic to notice that other people are actually suffering?

Theres that passive aggressive StephenDare we all know and love :)
Never said I was suffering nor held up in traffic,  Being "murdered" by a cop is just one opinion. Once again, if the cop tells you to get on the ground, don't argue... better yet, DONT BREAK THE LAW

Right.  Until its you, or one of your children Camarocane.

When you bury one of them, perhaps they will say at the wake, well he was told to obey the cops at all times.....

Because you know, Cops are like Jesus Christ.

Just keep spinning it! Perhaps your right Stephen maybe the FEDs or JSO will target me and the Ramallah Club will protest with #arablivesmatter. But it will not be because I break the law... because well, I don't.