Jacksonville's next Superbowl !!!

Started by Coolyfett, October 02, 2008, 08:59:46 AM

ProjectMaximus

I honestly don't think transit is that big an issue. It's primarily a hotel rooms and entertainment issue. Where transit comes into play is it would really help improve vibrancy and connectivity, but transit itself isn't the key. Otherwise Tampa, Phoenix, Miami and Dallas wouldn't be as popular as they are. Tampa and Phoenix don't have good transit and while Dallas and Miami are ok, their stadiums aren't connected at all.

Rynjny

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 29, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
I honestly don't think transit is that big an issue. It's primarily a hotel rooms and entertainment issue. Where transit comes into play is it would really help improve vibrancy and connectivity, but transit itself isn't the key. Otherwise Tampa, Phoenix, Miami and Dallas wouldn't be as popular as they are. Tampa and Phoenix don't have good transit and while Dallas and Miami are ok, their stadiums aren't connected at all.

Get someone to built a casino DT, there's your entertainment and hotel rooms...two birds with one stone.

Gamblor

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Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 29, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
I honestly don't think transit is that big an issue. It's primarily a hotel rooms and entertainment issue. Where transit comes into play is it would really help improve vibrancy and connectivity, but transit itself isn't the key. Otherwise Tampa, Phoenix, Miami and Dallas wouldn't be as popular as they are. Tampa and Phoenix don't have good transit and while Dallas and Miami are ok, their stadiums aren't connected at all.

Due to the hordes of spectators that descend on the area holding a super bowl, the NFL likes a city to have a decent/improving mass system (see Minneapolis's Metro Green Line being a factor in their being awarded the 2018 game... as well as the new 1 billion dollar stadium opening next season). Tampa and Miami get around this by already being long time super bowl destination cities from before the time that was really looked at as a factor. Same with Phoenix, although with the opening of the Metro LTR there in 2008, even they are starting to improve. And Dallas just got to host it that one time as an honor for building such a huge, fancy facility. That and Jerry's sway over the other owners (stripper parties.... jk... i think)

In terms of Jax though, since we are so spread out, connectivity goes a long way. Especially when its to vibrant places that already exist.

thelakelander

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 29, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
I honestly don't think transit is that big an issue. It's primarily a hotel rooms and entertainment issue. Where transit comes into play is it would really help improve vibrancy and connectivity, but transit itself isn't the key. Otherwise Tampa, Phoenix, Miami and Dallas wouldn't be as popular as they are. Tampa and Phoenix don't have good transit and while Dallas and Miami are ok, their stadiums aren't connected at all.

True. However, those other cities are more compact in terms of hotel rooms and distance between entertainment options and their stadiums. All are also multiple times larger than Jax. The smallest is Tampa and it's MSA is more than twice our size.  When it comes to hosting major events, we're no where close to being in their league.  However, that's not an indictment against us.  We're just much smaller in population and what we have to offer isn't available in a compact environment, similar to a place like Indianapolis.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

I-10east

#139
Sounds like quite a few exceptions to the rule was made regarding transit in other Super Bowl cities (two FL cities among them). I'm not sure why Jax's mass transit have to be this stand alone jewel in the South to get a SB back. The key is hotels and entertainment specifically DT.   

Gamblor

#140
Quote from: I-10east on November 29, 2014, 11:53:05 PM
Sounds like quite a few exceptions to the rule was made regarding transit in other Super Bowl cities (two FL cities among them). I'm not sure why Jax's mass transit have to be this stand alone jewel in the South to get a SB back. The key is hotels and entertainment specifically DT.   

No one said jewel, and considering off the top my head, Atlanta, New Orleans (regular southern Super Bowl host by the way), it wont hurt us. Hotels and entertainment are majorly important, as is having an adequate exhibition space for hosting corporate events and the NFL experience showcase, but it's probably more important to show the city has truly become an NFL market (or can at least do a much better job of keeping up appearances).

By the way, you want to know how you get all the nation to stop talking about how small time Jax was last Super Bowl? You knock there socks off at the second one.  And considering how many people come from urban markets where they don't have to drive all the time like New York, Chicago, SF, Boston......