Lost Jacksonville: Klutho's Cornices

Started by Metro Jacksonville, September 11, 2014, 02:10:01 PM

Scrub Palmetto

#15
Another lost Klutho cornice: the Morocco Temple on Newnan. Was that one lost during a period of abandonment, too?

Edit: Oh, and how could I forget the Dyal-Upchurch Building? Sorry, Klutho...

I-10east


Ocklawaha

Quote from: I-10east on September 12, 2014, 01:55:11 AM
I did a simple online search concerning this cornice/abandoned building correlation; The info is uniform throughout, it's a no-go situation. I looked at numerous municipal codes Detroit, Memphis, etc, and the info is the same just like Jax. Unfortunately, the FL Life Bldg was abandoned for such a long time, they really didn't have a choice.

I dunno about any of you, but would you trust walking underneath a wide cornice of an old long neglected abandoned building? There's a reason why that code is in place. Those cornices were very beautiful, but I'm satisfied in knowing that the city had their hands tied a long time ago. Atleast the building is still standing.

Yes I-10E, I'll be happy to walk under, dance or picnic under the cornices of any 'long neglected abandoned building,' that I can see and judge safe. No need for big brother to hold my hand or rip up streets so I won't fall down or get smashed.

Honest to God man, I think if Jacksonville decided to rip down the stadium and rebuild it with compressed dog shit, you'd be okay with it, because you know, dog shit compressed into building blocks looks so nice in Jacksonville!

I-10east

^^^Do your research with municipal safety codes. I'm not gonna get into a childish name-calling fest with you.   

I-10east

^^^I'll take your word, even though that's proved in the past to be a slippery slope. If something with have happened, it would've been the property owners fault right?? So much for pedestrian safety, I guess that only matters when someone gets hits by a car... The building don't even have any windows and no roofwork, but everything was okay, I have a bridge to sell. I'm not gonna wallow in my tears and lose any sleep over this. 

I-10east

Whatever dude, just let it go. I have nothing else to add, so ramble on....

Scrub Palmetto

Stephen, I hope you don't mind me pulling you aside from the I-10east, uh, conversation, but...

Quote from: stephendare on September 13, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
So, thanks for weighing in with your usual total lack of insight.

Speaking of insight, do you (or anyone else reading) have any on the Morocco Temple and Dyal-Upchurch cornice losses? The FL Life building's missing ones have always saddened me. The loss of such a great one is bad enough, but the loss of several from the same beloved architect... to put it into words some regulars are apparently more comfortable with:

OMG WTH JAX

Scrub Palmetto

Fantastic! Thanks. Yes, the Egyptian Revival building on Newnan. I'd love to know why and when they were lost and where they ended up. I think the Morocco ones were gone in the '50s.

IrvAdams

Quote from: Scrub Palmetto on September 13, 2014, 08:14:11 PM
Stephen, I hope you don't mind me pulling you aside from the I-10east, uh, conversation, but...

Quote from: stephendare on September 13, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
So, thanks for weighing in with your usual total lack of insight.

Speaking of insight, do you (or anyone else reading) have any on the Morocco Temple and Dyal-Upchurch cornice losses? The FL Life building's missing ones have always saddened me. The loss of such a great one is bad enough, but the loss of several from the same beloved architect... to put it into words some regulars are apparently more comfortable with:

OMG WTH JAX

I've been in the Dyal Upchurch building on a number of occasions, and it's an extremely cool 'high rise'. Someone told me it was the tallest building in the State when constructed. I didn't know it lost its original cornices-that's awful.

Man I wish we had more of these old treasures around.
"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still"
- Lao Tzu

thelakelander

Dyal-Upchurch Building shortly after completion:




Dyal-Upchurch Building today:

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

#25
Morocco Temple Before:



Morocco Temple After:



Its cornice was removed as a part of a 1950s building renovation and expansion project.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

IrvAdams

According to my favorite coffee table book Jacksonville's Architectural Heritage the cornices of the Dyal-Upchurch were removed following a 1915 fire which gutted the upper floors.
"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still"
- Lao Tzu