Orlando's New Multimodal Terminal

Started by spuwho, June 21, 2014, 12:35:02 AM

spuwho

Included here is a video by architect SchenkelShultz outlining the layout and features of the new multimodal terminal being built at Orlando International Airport (MCO).

This new terminal will accommodate a new APM (automated people mover) system, All Aboard Florida, Buses (public and private) and auto parking.

It's hard to catch and they don't mention it, but the center appears to have room for up to 3 additional transit "modes" next to the APM. This is great because it means at Level 3, all the transit modes will come in at the same level making it easier to transfer.

All Aboard Florida will come in up above at Level 5.

Probably the coolest design feature is the pedestrian concourse, it looks down on all the transit modes coming and going on Level 3. You can even check your bags in this terminal. 

https://www.youtube.com/v/zH3_ZNRHtSw

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

JFman00

How in the world do you make a multimodal terminal on less than eight city blocks? Impossible!

tufsu1

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Quote from: JFman00 on June 21, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
How in the world do you make a multimodal terminal on less than eight city blocks? Impossible!

the Orlando one is pretty large...probably at least 4 city blocks

thelakelander

The ability to switch between modes doesn't appear to be spread out across the design though. Much of it's land area is taken up by a major parking facility that will one day, become a part of a second airport terminal.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

^ agreed...I expect that if Jacksonville ever gets to building one, it will be far less than 8 blocks...likely 2-3

as many of us have said before, the big question is whether the Prime Osborn remains a convention center...if so, the rail either needs to be moved or the center will be stretched out over a few blocks.

thelakelander

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JRTC:

Amtrak/Commuter rail platform to BRT/local bus/Skyway terminal: 3 blocks

Amtrak/Commuter rail platform to Greyhound terminal: 5 blocks

Ideally, it would be good to not have any modes north of Forsyth.

Question.  How successful is the Atlantic City Convention Center?  I noticed it's also an intermodal center with rail and bus:



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spuwho

In the Orlando proposal there is room between the AAF entry and the bus lanes for a future Sunrail access. The ped walkway from the bus center up over has extra unused space.

On the APM side there are 2 unused ground level entries before you get a service pass through for the parking garage.

This would be for any future system from I - Drive (mag lev or whatever)

At least this is what I see when I review the layout. I would have to see the actual site plan from the architects to confirm.

Ocklawaha

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The only thing that bodes well for the Orlando-OIA terminal is that 75% of it's traffic is neither destined to, nor bound from Orlando. If the destination were truly Orlando, then this would be like building the JRTC on the Callahan side of JIA. STUPID! One look at the plan writes whole new chapters on walkability, pedestrian access or resident friendly.

Sunrail directly into Sand Lake and on to downtown, Sanford and Volusia will help, but like the High Speed Rail Plan, by the time one transfers the truly high speed would probably have been on I-95. I think ultimately the only way to handle this logically is to send a portion of the AAF train on north along the Sunrail route, and the balance south-west to Disney and Tampa.

This is one area where IF our lethargic government ever moves to clean up and actually build our terminal at the old station, the JRTC will function a thousand times better then Orlando's new crystal glass palace in a remote swamp.

spuwho

Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 22, 2014, 01:03:22 PM
The only thing that bodes well for the Orlando-OIA terminal is that 75% of it's traffic is neither destined to, nor bound from Orlando. If the destination were truly Orlando, then this would be like building the JRTC on the Callahan side of JIA. STUPID! One look at the plan writes whole new chapters on walkability, pedestrian access or resident friendly.

Sunrail directly into Sand Lake and on to downtown, Sanford and Volusia will help, but like the High Speed Rail Plan, by the time one transfers the truly high speed would probably have been on I-95. I think ultimately the only way to handle this logically is to send a portion of the AAF train on north along the Sunrail route, and the balance south-west to Disney and Tampa.

This is one area where IF our lethargic government ever moves to clean up and actually build our terminal at the old station, the JRTC will function a thousand times better then Orlando's new crystal glass palace in a remote swamp.

That would make sense because this Orlando modal hub serves tourists. The JRTC does not.

tufsu1

Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 22, 2014, 01:03:22 PM
The only thing that bodes well for the Orlando-OIA terminal is that 75% of it's traffic is neither destined to, nor bound from Orlando. If the destination were truly Orlando, then this would be like building the JRTC on the Callahan side of JIA. STUPID! One look at the plan writes whole new chapters on walkability, pedestrian access or resident friendly.

we've been over this many times Ock...your theory is only correct if you assume that the Disney and I-Drive areas aren't Orlando.

thelakelander



The old plan with the future airport terminal added:



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acme54321

So have they figured out how to get the train from Cocoa to OIA yet?  Are they planning to run along the Beeline and then jump onto the spur that runs along the south side of the airport to the powerplant?   

thelakelander

They figured that out a few months ago. It's going to run down the Beach Line and then head directly south, once it gets to SR 436/Semoran Blvd.

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali