GOP lawmakers long urged rescue of Bergdahl

Started by finehoe, June 06, 2014, 02:31:53 PM

finehoe

Rep. Richard B. Nugent (R-Fla.), a lawmaker whose three sons have served in the military, made the case of captive soldier Bowe Bergdahl a personal cause. Nugent delivered speeches about Bergdahl on the House floor. He introduced two resolutions affirming that the United States would not abandon him in Afghanistan.

What Nugent wanted, he told a crowd at a rally for Bergdahl in February, was for "the United States to do everything possible not to leave any members of the armed forces behind."

But now, Nugent says that — when he said "do everything possible" — he did not actually mean everything. Now that Bergdahl is free, the Florida Republican has become a critic of the deal that freed him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-bergdahl-boomerang-gop-lawmakers-who-long-urged-a-rescue-now-sour-on-the-idea/2014/06/06/a538698a-ece3-11e3-93d2-edd4be1f5d9e_story.html?hpid=z1

Debbie Thompson

This is what Bill Maher refers to as black tracking. That moment when you realize President Obama has agreed with you and you have to change your mind. :-)

I-10east

and of course the very steadfast John McCain. What a joke he is....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIMOibtdOQE


NotNow

The President has made the deal.  He should have notified Congress per the law or he should not have signed the law.  While I would agree with the administration that this lies within the purview of the CIC, he didn't veto it and now he owns this deal.  The news here is the identity of the released terrorists.  President Obama has given a great deal of his political capital and reputation to five evil men who hate him and America.  It is a great risk.
Deo adjuvante non timendum

I-10east

There aren't any easy decisions to be made with this entire Bergdahl situation; Presidents sometimes have to make tough decisions. Regardless of Bergdahl's intentions (whether he is a deserter or not) the creed is to leave no soldier behind. Who's to say that those GITMO prisoners will not be released in the future anyway? Are we gonna bring the prisoners to the US to be tried? Who knows?

The only thing that I didn't like off the bat was that Rose Garden press conference with the parents, praising Bergdahl's service without knowing the full details. The process should have been done more discreetly with no fanfare.

Politics are a joke. With the flip-floppers on both sides of the issue (whatever one the POTUS isn't). They all are liars. Democrats would've done the same thing if the situation was vice-versa.

tufsu1

Quote from: NotNow on June 07, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
President Obama has given a great deal of his political capital and reputation to five evil men who hate him and America.  It is a great risk.

compare that with the deal Israel made to get Galid Shalit back...and it is far more likely that some of those 1,000+ prisoners could one day effect harm on Israelis

NotNow

Israel has its own problems.  I was commenting on our government.
Deo adjuvante non timendum

tufsu1

nice deflection.  Fact is the people of Israel swallowed hard on the prisoner release, but getting Shalit home was of utmost importance.

bill

Quote from: I-10east on June 08, 2014, 05:56:30 PM
There aren't any easy decisions to be made with this entire Bergdahl situation; Presidents sometimes have to make tough decisions. Regardless of Bergdahl's intentions (whether he is a deserter or not) the creed is to leave no soldier behind. Who's to say that those GITMO prisoners will not be released in the future anyway? Are we gonna bring the prisoners to the US to be tried? Who knows?

The only thing that I didn't like off the bat was that Rose Garden press conference with the parents, praising Bergdahl's service without knowing the full details. The process should have been done more discreetly with no fanfare.

Politics are a joke. With the flip-floppers on both sides of the issue (whatever one the POTUS isn't). They all are liars. Democrats would've done the same thing if the situation was vice-versa.

There is no question of whether he is a deserter.


I-10east

#10
^^^I thought that I was being pretty even-keeled and straight forward with that post. I'm glad that you thought it was amusing. I thought that your 'Pepper spray to a Gunfight' title was very funny.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: tufsu1 on June 08, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: NotNow on June 07, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
President Obama has given a great deal of his political capital and reputation to five evil men who hate him and America.  It is a great risk.

compare that with the deal Israel made to get Galid Shalit back...and it is far more likely that some of those 1,000+ prisoners could one day effect harm on Israelis

The difference between Shalit and Bergdahl is this...

QuoteAt the time of his abduction, Shalit was a corporal in an armored corps unit as part of his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). The two other soldiers patrolling with Shalit near the Gaza border on June 25, 2006 were killed during the attack, and the wounded 19-year-old was taken by Hamas to southern Gaza where he would be held for the next five years.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

finehoe

QuoteThe Israeli press, in its coverage of the release, referred to Bergdahl as the American "Gilad Shalit"

Read more: American 'Gilad Shalit' freed from captivity in Afghanistan | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/last-us-soldier-freed-from-captivity-in-afghanistan/#ixzz348yxQ23F


BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on June 09, 2014, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 09, 2014, 07:01:24 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on June 08, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: NotNow on June 07, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
President Obama has given a great deal of his political capital and reputation to five evil men who hate him and America.  It is a great risk.

compare that with the deal Israel made to get Galid Shalit back...and it is far more likely that some of those 1,000+ prisoners could one day effect harm on Israelis

The difference between Shalit and Bergdahl is this...

QuoteAt the time of his abduction, Shalit was a corporal in an armored corps unit as part of his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). The two other soldiers patrolling with Shalit near the Gaza border on June 25, 2006 were killed during the attack, and the wounded 19-year-old was taken by Hamas to southern Gaza where he would be held for the next five years.

you guys sound treasonous to me.

sorry that you hate the idea of rescuing an american so much.

What on earth are you talking about???  Again... I have not said that it was wrong to "rescue" him.  In fact... I have ALWAYS said it was right.  TUFSU compared Shalit to Bergdahl... I was simply pointing out that Shalit was captured while ambushed in combat... while Bergdahl... well... wandered off.  As someone who has only served... food... I do not expect you to understand the difference...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on June 09, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 09, 2014, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: stephendare on June 09, 2014, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 09, 2014, 07:01:24 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on June 08, 2014, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: NotNow on June 07, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
President Obama has given a great deal of his political capital and reputation to five evil men who hate him and America.  It is a great risk.

compare that with the deal Israel made to get Galid Shalit back...and it is far more likely that some of those 1,000+ prisoners could one day effect harm on Israelis

The difference between Shalit and Bergdahl is this...

QuoteAt the time of his abduction, Shalit was a corporal in an armored corps unit as part of his service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). The two other soldiers patrolling with Shalit near the Gaza border on June 25, 2006 were killed during the attack, and the wounded 19-year-old was taken by Hamas to southern Gaza where he would be held for the next five years.

you guys sound treasonous to me.

sorry that you hate the idea of rescuing an american so much.

What on earth are you talking about???  Again... I have not said that it was wrong to "rescue" him.  In fact... I have ALWAYS said it was right.  TUFSU compared Shalit to Bergdahl... I was simply pointing out that Shalit was captured while ambushed in combat... while Bergdahl... well... wandered off.  As someone who has only served... food... I do not expect you to understand the difference...

hopefully, if you ever need to be rescued as an american citizen, the decisions will be made by someone who understands that there is no difference.

I want all Americans rescued.  The administration can now turn its rescue efforts to North Korea... as they have decided that imprisoning Americans is for both fun and profit...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."