Sandbags stir charges of special treatment

Started by Steve, August 23, 2008, 02:38:59 PM

uptowngirl

Quote from: stephendare on August 29, 2008, 11:03:29 AM
It is neither corrupt nor wrong.

The underlying issue is what we should be addressing instead of wasting time on this meanspirited discussion.

Sandbags should be available to everyone as possible.

How is this mean spirited and yet accusing McCain of crimes he was never charged with or dissing him for divorcing his first wife isn't?

This is a real issue,and should be treated as such. That being said I have no problem offerring sandbags if it is affordable, and can be fairly distributed without raising my taxes yet again.

Springfield Girl

Where does it stop? The government is expected to educate, raise children, provide jobs, cure illness, house and feed people, rebuild homes, bail out mortgagees, provide sand bags etc. etc. etc. WE the tax payers ARE the government and I'm tired of footing the bill. Where has personal responsibility gone? If you can't afford it or take care of it you don't need to own it or birth it.

Springfield Girl

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Oh, and so much for all the dramatic doom and gloom from our city leaders about the big budget shortfall due to property tax cuts. The newly imposed fees matched my property tax cut almost to the penny. Big surprise.

apvbguy

Quote from: stephendare on August 29, 2008, 11:03:29 AM
It is neither corrupt nor wrong.

The underlying issue is what we should be addressing instead of wasting time on this meanspirited discussion.

Sandbags should be available to everyone as possible.

you're right about one thing, sandbags should be available to everyone, not just the ones with Hollingsworth on their speed dial.
official misconduct should be punished, and peyton and his crew of cronies should be made to pay
When you put clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out

never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and clobber you with his experience

jacksonvilleconfidential

Sarcastic and Mean Spirited

Lunican

Quote from: Springfield Girl on August 29, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Oh, and so much for all the dramatic doom and gloom from our city leaders about the big budget shortfall due to property tax cuts. The newly imposed fees matched my property tax cut almost to the penny. Big surprise.

That's why it was a bad idea to pass a property tax cut. Now we've got fees that aren't tax deductible and they are much easier for the city to raise.

uptowngirl

When do we see the property tax cut? My property taxes have not gone down one cent, in fact they were juts increased....

jacksonvilleconfidential

I just received a letter about 1 week ago with my proposed property taxes and they were decreased drastically. If you havent received your letter yet, you should soon.

I do not know the exact date that these are to go into effect, I dont have the announcement with me here at the office.

Hope that helps.
Sarcastic and Mean Spirited

uptowngirl

That is when I got mine too and they had gone up, and yes it is homesteaded

tufsu1

Quote from: uptowngirl on August 29, 2008, 01:33:15 PM
When do we see the property tax cut? My property taxes have not gone down one cent, in fact they were juts increased....

Not that I was in favor of the tax cut, but my 2009 bill dropped by over 20%

Springfield Girl

My bill dropped but the fees negated the savings. Whether or not you think it was a bad idea to reduce property taxes the people voted and the city circumvented the will of the people. I don't agree with the ways the government spends my money but I don't have the option of not paying taxes. They need to tighten their belts like the taxpayers have been forced to do.

RiversideGator

Quote from: Lunican on August 29, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Springfield Girl on August 29, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Oh, and so much for all the dramatic doom and gloom from our city leaders about the big budget shortfall due to property tax cuts. The newly imposed fees matched my property tax cut almost to the penny. Big surprise.

That's why it was a bad idea to pass a property tax cut. Now we've got fees that aren't tax deductible and they are much easier for the city to raise.

The property tax cut was a good idea.  Hiring Peyton as Mayor was a bad idea.  Can Peyton, cut non-essential spending and keep property taxes low.

tufsu1

Quote from: RiversideGator on August 29, 2008, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: Lunican on August 29, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Springfield Girl on August 29, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Oh, and so much for all the dramatic doom and gloom from our city leaders about the big budget shortfall due to property tax cuts. The newly imposed fees matched my property tax cut almost to the penny. Big surprise.

That's why it was a bad idea to pass a property tax cut. Now we've got fees that aren't tax deductible and they are much easier for the city to raise.

The property tax cut was a good idea.  Hiring Peyton as Mayor was a bad idea.  Can Peyton, cut non-essential spending and keep property taxes low.

since you think that reducing preoperty taxes is a good thing...and seem not to be worried about Florida's declining revenues, I have a question...

How do you suggest we fund education, infrastructure, health care, criminal justice, sanitation, etc.

Springfield Girl

Why is it that people always throw out cutting essential services as a scare tactic? Our government spends millions of dollars on programs other than these that could be cut. Like I stated in another thread, WE the taxpayers ARE the government. So call it what it is, people being forced to support other people whether they like it or not.

uptowngirl

Quote from: tufsu1 on August 30, 2008, 08:26:19 AM
Quote from: RiversideGator on August 29, 2008, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: Lunican on August 29, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Springfield Girl on August 29, 2008, 12:05:37 PM
Oh, and so much for all the dramatic doom and gloom from our city leaders about the big budget shortfall due to property tax cuts. The newly imposed fees matched my property tax cut almost to the penny. Big surprise.

That's why it was a bad idea to pass a property tax cut. Now we've got fees that aren't tax deductible and they are much easier for the city to raise.

The property tax cut was a good idea.  Hiring Peyton as Mayor was a bad idea.  Can Peyton, cut non-essential spending and keep property taxes low.

since you think that reducing preoperty taxes is a good thing...and seem not to be worried about Florida's declining revenues, I have a question...

How do you suggest we fund education, infrastructure, health care, criminal justice, sanitation, etc.


I would start with not supplying sandbags for politicians....