New technology protects gun owners

[spuwho]

Biometric technologies are bringing new levels of protection to gun owners who carry but don't want them used without their knowledge.

Per Discovery News:

Biometric Gun Lock Has Fingerprint Scanner



We probably don't need this Pew Research survey to tell us that Americans are split down the middle on the issue of gun ownership. But here it is: 50 percent of us say gun control is more important than gun rights; 48 percent say the opposite. And even though more than 90 percent of Americans who took this poll want background checks, it's not going to happen with money from the NRA opposing it.

But surely no one wants their gun to fall into the hands of a thief or murder, or worse — a child. So how to prevent that?

Engineer Omer Kiyani, who was shot in the face when he was 16 years old, has an innovative solution. It's called Indentilock and it's a biometric lock that attaches to the trigger mechanism and only comes off when activated by an authorized fingerprint. It's similar to how the fingerprint lock on an iPhone works. Except in this case, the lock is FBI compliant and detachable.

This means you don't need to fumble around for a key, should you need to use your gun quickly. And because several people can be authorized to use the device, you can make sure that only adults have access and not children.

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The rechargeable lock also glows in the dark, making it easier to locate, should you wake in the middle of the night to the sound of someone breaking in your house.

What many folks, including myself, seem to like about this solution is that it's optional and if you do chose to use it, it disengages quickly.

Also a new product from Intelligun

http://www.intelligun.com/

Intelligun® is a fingerprint locking system which completely locks your gun, unlocking it immediately only for you and for your authorized users.



No keys, watches, or codes are needed. All you do is pick up and hold your gun normally, and Intelligun® reads your fingerprint, authorizes you, and unlocks your gun right away, allowing only you to use your gun. Right when you let go of your gun, Intelligun® relocks your gun, rendering it completely inoperable.

[BridgeTroll]

Expired battery?

[RiversideLoki]

Yeah, bump that. This doesn't "protect gun owners". It makes law abiding gun owners dead faster when the technology fails and they can't get access to their firearm in a life or death situation.

"Hold on, Mr. Home Invasion Robber... let me put on my smart watch so I can shoot you!"

[coredumped]

Yeah, bump that. This doesn't "protect gun owners". It makes law abiding gun owners dead faster when the technology fails and they can't get access to their firearm in a life or death situation.

"Hold on, Mr. Home Invasion Robber... let me put on my smart watch so I can shoot you!"

Exactly this. When it comes down to life or death I want as little failure points as possible, add this creates way too many.

[carpnter]

Fingerprint sensors can be defeated, they have already found a way to defeat the iPhone sensor.

[coredumped]

so, abandon the iphone sensor?

The iphone sensor is optional. Besides that, guns are a matter of life and death, iphones not so much.

Gun rights on a metrojacksonville thread...oh this is going to be good....

[Overstreet]

1. Both of those are right handed sensors. There are left handed shooters.

2. Any trained shooter knows that you need to be able to shoot strong hand and weak hand in the off hand position for survivability drills. This defeats that.

3. The intelligun sensor is not an index finger but a middle finger exact placement depends upon grip size not all grips and hands work well this way.

4. Dirt...

[carpnter]

but it can be hacked right?

So therefore it serves no purpose.

Is that right Carpnter?

Keep your pants on stephen, I don't hover here waiting for responses.   

No where did I say it serves no purpose, but it is not the end all to keeping a firearm secure and it should not be represented as such.  Fingerprint sensors are not foolproof nor are they completely secure.  If your finger isn't positioned properly you can get a bad read and the gun would not function, if you have ever used one on a laptop I'm sure that you've experienced bad reads when you swipe your finger.  There is not a universal hand size and the placement of the sensor could also be problematic, its position on the grip might be fine for me but it may not work at all for my wife whose hands are significantly smaller than mine are.   I could go on, but I think I've made the point I needed to make.

[RiversideLoki]

Not to mention that the 1911 grip accessory is just that, an accessory. This would not prevent theft of the gun considering a set of new grips will run you around 10 bucks and the fancy little gadget can just be drilled and cut off. It's completely pointless.

[urbanlibertarian]

What about a scope that does a retinal scan?

[civil42806]

Just stupid on so many levels

[BridgeTroll]

Not pointless... not a panacea either.  Im sure there will be a market for such weapons.  There will be a niche of folks who will want one.  Gun manufacturers like everyone else are always looking for popular new features... 

[NotNow]

The weapon is safe in your holster on your person.  For storage, I would select high concealment.  It is free, fast, and failsafe.  Just my 2.

[peestandingup]

but it can be hacked right?

So therefore it serves no purpose.

Is that right Carpnter?

Keep your pants on stephen, I don't hover here waiting for responses.   

No where did I say it serves no purpose, but it is not the end all to keeping a firearm secure and it should not be represented as such.  Fingerprint sensors are not foolproof nor are they completely secure.  If your finger isn't positioned properly you can get a bad read and the gun would not function, if you have ever used one on a laptop I'm sure that you've experienced bad reads when you swipe your finger.  There is not a universal hand size and the placement of the sensor could also be problematic, its position on the grip might be fine for me but it may not work at all for my wife whose hands are significantly smaller than mine are.   I could go on, but I think I've made the point I needed to make.

so the position is that if it doesnt end all crime or doesnt prevent all hacking, then its pointless?

I believe the line of thinking is that while it may curb unauthorized uses, it would also be problematic for when you really need it. Too many variables for failure. And electronics can/do fail, like, a lot. Mechanical in these situations are probably the way to go.

I could also envision this ushering in a bunch of other stuff too down the road. Like hacking, DRM, spyware, tracking, etc.

[carpnter]

but it can be hacked right?

So therefore it serves no purpose.

Is that right Carpnter?

Keep your pants on stephen, I don't hover here waiting for responses.   

No where did I say it serves no purpose, but it is not the end all to keeping a firearm secure and it should not be represented as such.  Fingerprint sensors are not foolproof nor are they completely secure.  If your finger isn't positioned properly you can get a bad read and the gun would not function, if you have ever used one on a laptop I'm sure that you've experienced bad reads when you swipe your finger.  There is not a universal hand size and the placement of the sensor could also be problematic, its position on the grip might be fine for me but it may not work at all for my wife whose hands are significantly smaller than mine are.   I could go on, but I think I've made the point I needed to make.

so the position is that if it doesnt end all crime or doesnt prevent all hacking, then its pointless?

You have a very bad habit of engaging in the message board equivalent of putting words in other people's mouths.  It is childish and contributes nothing to the discussion.  I have already addressed your question and will not do so again.  Until you are willing to discuss the points made and not engage in ridiculous hyperbole, you are not worthy of a response.