Headwaters of Julington Creek

[Noone]

+2^ There is zero communication and it was again highlighted by Councilmembers Boyer and Crescimbeni. Have a message in for councilman Redman. Did have an email back from Lisa Rinaman.

[Charles Hunter]

Three days and 32 posts ... and we still don't know what this is about.

By the way, there is another thread that actually talks about those cryptic bill numbers, under a title that would apply here, "Anyone know what is going on here?":
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,20826.msg365428.html#msg365428

[Noone]

One day out from a full Jacksonville city council vote. What happened in LUZ? Did the Riverkeeper show up? Anyone in opposition? The planning dept said NO. Waterways said YES.

[riverkeepered]

Here is what Nooney was referring to - the Cypress Bluff development near 9B.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542334
These properties are along Big Davis Creek that flows into Julington.

[coredumped]

Thanks riverkeepered for clearing up the most bizarre thread on MJ. I was beginning to think (and still do!) that noone is a bot.

[JeffreyS]

As long as the developers pay for 100% of their development, it's infrastructure needs, the mobility fee to offset increased traffic in the city and for any environmental impact to be mitigated sounds good.

[Ocklawaha]

In Noone's defense here, we've kayaked together and worked on several projects together. Our friend is an inexhaustible dynamo of applied energy.

Just a theory, and I hope it doesn't piss my friend off, but there are those among us with dyslexia, or visual memory disfunction, or immediate auditory memory disfunction (think auditory dyslexia), various forms of ADHD and myriad other handicap's that have ZERO reflection on ones intelligence or sincerity. So of the greatest minds in the world have had similar issues. I have found friend Noone's 'circular speech' interesting, and find myself constantly seeking ways to get a clear view of his intent. I would think in this enlightened age, especially considering the number of well educated people that frequent these threads, we could make that little leap to boost his posts along with information that may be otherwise lacking. One thing I'm certain of, Noone is NOT PLAYING GAMES with us.

I too suspect this is about the Davis Ranch development. It would be nice to see more on what those plans consist of and how that might effect Julington or Durbin Creek.

[Charles Hunter]

As long as the developers pay for 100% of their development, it's infrastructure needs, the mobility fee to offset increased traffic in the city and for any environmental impact to be mitigated sounds good.

This is one of the developments (developers) that are rumored to be behind Bill Bishop's bill to amend the Mobility Fee to allow developers to get credit against the Mobility Fee for building their own internal roads.

[Dog Walker]

As long as the developers pay for 100% of their development, it's infrastructure needs, the mobility fee to offset increased traffic in the city and for any environmental impact to be mitigated sounds good.

This is one of the developments (developers) that are rumored to be behind Bill Bishop's bill to amend the Mobility Fee to allow developers to get credit against the Mobility Fee for building their own internal roads.

I've heard the same rumor.

[thelakelander]

It's not a rumor.

[Noone]

Here is what Nooney was referring to - the Cypress Bluff development near 9B.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542334
These properties are along Big Davis Creek that flows into Julington.

Thanks for posting. So what was the position of the St. Johns Riverkeeper on this project? Was this ever on the St. Johns Riverkeeper radar? Did JU way in on this project? I became aware of this like most of us in that there was a Public Hearing on this at a city council meeting and I don't recall anyone speaking. The next day there is a presentation given at a Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting that was so sparsely attended.

Vince Seibold- Environmental Ethics

So our Planning Dept recommends NO. Waterways votes YES and our St. Johns Riverkeeper is sitting in the front row and was never recognized or spoke to the presentation. The planning dept and just paraphrasing but given the vastness of the flood plain and if you think you have seen algae blooms in the past.

So today 3/3/14 there will be a celebration in the northern part of Duval county that will celebrate the Preservation of a sensitive ecosystem and at the same time lets all celebrate what just happened in the southern part of Duval county with the Preservation of another sensitive ecosystem.

[southsider1015]

Here is what Nooney was referring to - the Cypress Bluff development near 9B.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542334
These properties are along Big Davis Creek that flows into Julington.

Thanks for posting. So what was the position of the St. Johns Riverkeeper on this project? Was this ever on the St. Johns Riverkeeper radar? Did JU way in on this project? I became aware of this like most of us in that there was a Public Hearing on this at a city council meeting and I don't recall anyone speaking. The next day there is a presentation given at a Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting that was so sparsely attended.

Vince Seibold- Environmental Ethics

So our Planning Dept recommends NO. Waterways votes YES and our St. Johns Riverkeeper is sitting in the front row and was never recognized or spoke to the presentation. The planning dept and just paraphrasing but given the vastness of the flood plain and if you think you have seen algae blooms in the past.

So today 3/3/12 there will be a celebration in the northern part of Duval county that will celebrate the Preservation of a sensitive ecosystem and at the same time lets all celebrate what just happened in the southern part of Duval county with the Preservation of another sensitive ecosystem.

I'm trying to catch up.  What does Vince have to do with this?  He's now with InBev:    https://www.linkedin.com/pub/vincent-seibold-p-e-mba/22/537/8a


Also, Julington Creek is impaired for fecal coliform, not nitrogen/phosphorus.   This is due to the numerous failing septic systems along Julington Creek and Pottsburg Creek:
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/water/tmdl/docs/tmdls/final/gp2/fecaltmdl_2265b_2351.pdf

The path to clean water for Julington Creek is to replace septic systems with sewer infrastructure, not stopping this development.  Just want to help you rant about the project in a better way. 

[Noone]

What happened to my post?
nitrogen phosphorus was discussed and lets all see the minutes at the 3/12/14 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting at 9 am in council chambers.

[acme54321]

The path to clean water for Julington Creek is to replace septic systems with sewer infrastructure, not stopping this development.  Just want to help you rant about the project in a better way. 

You can't argue that the stormwater runoff from this development won't adversely impact the creek.  To what extend I can't answer.

[Noone]

^Big Plus 1
A river of discharge.