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Started by 02roadking, October 17, 2011, 08:22:01 PM

JayBird

Though I agree with most of the points, I do see Jacksonville putting in a bid to host another Super Bowl, most likely in the 2020-2024 timeline. When you look at the rankings of host cities, Jacksonville wasn't the worst and most out of towners actually had a good experience.

Typically, Jacksonville's problem is Jacksonville. It is a big little city with a huge inferiority complex. We see the day to day over the course of decades, but the snapshot most tourists see is quite beautiful and usually surprising which leaves a lasting impression on them.
Proud supporter of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

"Whenever I've been at a decision point, and there was an easy way and a hard way, the hard way always turned out to be the right way." ~Shahid Khan

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I-10east

#691
The latest with the Rams situation is that the land that the owner Stan Kroenke brought in Inglewood, CA could potentially be for a new soccer stadium. That's an awful lot of soccer teams in one city (two in LA already). I don't think that the Rams are out of the fire just yet with that stadium situation. If the city of STL doesn't take heed with that soon to be expired lease in the outdated Edward Jones Dome, time to fire up LL Cool J's "Going Back to Cali".

www.nesn.com/2014/02/st-louis-rams-owner-might-not-move-team-to-los-angeles-after-all/

JayBird

^ I think part of the issue is they have to be careful what they say because Anschutz hasn't officially said that Farmers Field is dead (but I think it is) and since nfl was supporting that, they really can't jump ship just yet. As of right now, I think its all speculation. Next week we will hear it'll be a baseball field for his AA Team. I do think its pretty sure that the rams will return to LA at some point in the next 5-10 years. I'm not so sure that LA can support a two team environment. NFL following seems to be on a steady decline. The new generation is more interested in the NFL in Madden on their Wii than on Fox at Cowboys Stadium.
Proud supporter of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

"Whenever I've been at a decision point, and there was an easy way and a hard way, the hard way always turned out to be the right way." ~Shahid Khan

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I-10east

Quote from: JayBird on February 09, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
I do think its pretty sure that the rams will return to LA at some point in the next 5-10 years. I'm not so sure that LA can support a two team environment.

I agree. It's crazy that some people (like Mike Florio) automatically assume that LA is gonna get two teams, just because of the large market size.

I-10east

Jerry Jones is in favor of a London NFL team. Like I said before, the three musketeers (Kraft, Jones and Goodell) are gonna ruin the league, all because of greed, SMH....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/15/jerry-jones-im-very-much-in-favor-of-an-nfl-team-in-london/

I-10east

To say that the future of the Bills remaining Buffalo is uncertain is putting it accurately. With the near-century old owner Ralph Wilson, stadium issues, economic issues in Buffalo etc, it would certainly take a Vivek Ranadive (Sac Kings owner)/Shad Khan-like new owner that insist the team stays in Buffalo.

Many make correlations with Buffalo and Jacksonville; Like both teams play in stadiums that are too large for the market, and both cities kinda have an inferiority complex. IMO it would be awful if the Bills moved, with their history, great loyal fans etc. I definitely have to put the Bills fans over the other teams that have relocation rumors (Chargers and Rams who had ties in LA anyway).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/16/bills-stadium-committee-could-be-advance-political-cover/

Wacca Pilatka

One major difference between the two metros is Buffalo is a zero net growth area; in fact, I think the area lost population in the last decade.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

I-10east


duvaldude08


what I find odd is that they are making renovations to their current stadium, and searching for a location to build a new one. Why waste money doing renovations, if you are going to build a new stadium? Talk about a waste of money
Jaguars 2.0

copperfiend

The biggest issue is the ownership situation in Buffalo. Ralph Wilson is in his mid-90's and from accounts, the team will be sold when he passes away.

I think if they went the renovation route, it would honestly only be to hold on to the team (through contract language) in the event the team is sold to someone who could move the team.

As Jaguar fans, we should be thankful that Weaver sold the team prior to getting to that point.

Wacca Pilatka

I understand that Jim Kelly would like to buy the Bills and keep them in Buffalo, but I doubt he has the wealth on his own to do so.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

Tacachale

^He'd need $900 million to pull that off. At this point all new NFL owners are going to be billionaires, or groups of high millionaires willing to work together. Buffalo's in trouble if they don't find ownership who'll commit to keeping the team in Buffalo in pretty short order. However as far as the LA threat goes, in the short term are at least three teams (Sand Diego, Oakland, and St. Louis) more vulnerable than they are.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Wacca Pilatka

Buffalo also has the disadvantage of being a two-sport marketplace since they have the Sabres too.  It's almost unfathomable to think that Buffalo lobbied for MLB and for getting the NBA back in the 90s.

They do have the advantage of being able to draw some secondary market support from Rochester, Erie, and even Syracuse.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

KenFSU

The Incognito Report is pretty disturbing.

http://63bba9dfdf9675bf3f10-68be460ce43dd2a60dd64ca5eca4ae1d.r37.cf1.rackcdn.com/PaulWeissReport.pdf

The NFL needs to make sure there are some serious repercussions here, and not just with Incognito himself.

Tacachale

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 17, 2014, 02:30:55 PM
Buffalo also has the disadvantage of being a two-sport marketplace since they have the Sabres too.  It's almost unfathomable to think that Buffalo lobbied for MLB and for getting the NBA back in the 90s.

They do have the advantage of being able to draw some secondary market support from Rochester, Erie, and even Syracuse.

Buffalo was historically a much larger city, proportionately, than it is now. The metro area had more people in the 60s than it does today, while other regions have leapfrogged it. As a football market, they're also competing throughout upstate New York with the Giants and Jets. However, they benefit from a totally rabid pro football culture, and the Toronto game seems to be paying off for them. But regardless of everything else the ownership issue is going to hang over every decision anyone makes.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?