Headwaters of Julington Creek

Started by Noone, February 15, 2014, 05:44:27 PM

Noone

30,000 acre development. Planning dept. says NO. Waterways says YES at the 2/12/14 Jacksonville Waterways Commision meeting. Legislation moves forward.

Noone


thelakelander

Can you provide more information?  Right now, it's pretty hard to understand whatever situation you're trying to get across.  For starters, what is the 30,000 acre development?
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Noone

There was a Public hearing at the 2/11/14 Jacksonville city council meeting. It was all lumped together.
2014-49
         50
         51
         52
         53
         54
         55
         56
Then the next day at Waterways the Planning Dept. is NO and Waterways is YES. A lot of people were absent at Waterways. Lisa Rinaman our St. Johns Riverkeeper was in the house in the front row and never recognized. Not good.

thelakelander

I'm more confused. What exactly is the 30,000 acre development?  Is it existing or already proposed? So the planning department said no to the development and the waterways said yes?
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Charles Hunter

.. and what do those proposed ordinances/rezonings/resolutions/whatevers do?

Noone

^Great questions. Has there been any news in the TU, Folio, Business Journal, any news station? Somebody just make a phone call. Don Redman and Scott Wilson are the Chairs of Waterways. Good luck 630-1394. Just paraphrasing but when you hear if you think you have algae blooms now just wait.

I agree. And let's then remember that it began at the 2/12/14 sparsely attended meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission with key no shows and key people never even being recognized. Legislation continues to move forward. And maybe the reason is that this is all positive.

acme54321

Quote from: Noone on February 17, 2014, 06:07:33 AM
^Great questions.

Then why don't you answer them?

It's clear you are passionate about whatever is going on.  Unfortunately no one us going to take your posts seriously because they are almost completely incoherent.

Noone

Acme54321, With all due respect. Just one person make a phone call. I am just Joe Q. Public sitting in a meeting. Lisa Rinaman our St. Johns Riverkeeper was there the whole meeting  in the front row and did return my email. She has concerns. Don Redman is the Chair of Waterways.

Maybe it is just me and I'm incoherent. But Planning said NO and Waterways said YES. And our St. Johns Riverkeeper was never recognized.

Charles Hunter

Perhaps if you gave us some idea of what you are talking about, and what we should say in "just one email" we might be able to help you.  We don't know what those bills are about. Sure we could look them up, but you are the one asking for action on them, so you should summarize them.

thelakelander

I second that. Noone, we're all John Q public and whatever this is, it's obviously important to you. Thus, the ball is in your court to least better explain, whatever is on your mind.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

acme54321

Quote from: Noone on February 17, 2014, 07:40:36 AMMaybe it is just me and I'm incoherent. But Planning said NO and Waterways said YES. And our St. Johns Riverkeeper was never recognized.

LOL

YES and NO about what?  The saga continues.... what will happen next?  No one has a clue.

spuwho

Hey, I am all for improving the waterways, but I will have to admit, there have been some recent random posts by "Noone", especially digging up some really old threads with incomplete information in them.

The "Headwaters of Julington Creek" reach pretty far and the basin alone stretches well past I-95.

I don't have issues sending an email or making a phone call, but if you need advocacy, you are going to have to spill something out in more detail than a random thought here and there.

Noone

^spuwho, you are right about the basin stretching well past I 95.

As for advocacy. From Rising Tides or any group or individual the next time you see or talk with Lisa Rinaman our St. Johns Riverkeeper just ask her about the 2/12/14 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting. I thank Lisa for returning my email less than 24 hours after the meeting. She has concerns.

As for advocacy. Allow me to show you a new Downtown zone of super restricted Public Access and Economic Opportunity in a newly created 3 mile riverfront boundary that will just crush the Public Trust. Weather and tides look good to kayak and fish under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways and make a scene, and provide a spark.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

Charles Hunter

I''m done.  If you can't explain what you are advocating, you can't expect others (well, at least me) to help you in that advocacy.  Why should we bother Ms Rinaman to find out what you want us to do?  Seems quite an imposition on her, when you should just tell us what has you all wound up.