Russian Propagandists are Hard at Work Spinning Invasion as America's Fault 2008

[RiversideGator]

Example:

Riversidegator calls Senator Obama a dangerous socialist. That post stays. Mr. Obama is a United States Senator.

Riversidegator is called a dangerous facist. That post is deleted. Riversidegator claims to be an unremarkable junior attorney in an unremarkable law firm in an unremarkable southern city.

Perhaps riversidegator feels he is owed more respect and deference than the United States Senator representing one of the largest Cities in this country, and that the rules of civil discussion that he imposes upon all other participants in "his" thread don't apply to his own remarks?

Or, perhaps that because Senator Obama has entered the political arena, riversidegator feels that it is not inappropriate to ape the language and insults of  limbaugh and  hannity, being as they are on national media and that usage is found to be acceptable there, and further that their language tends to support his position.

Once again, it is with great pleasure that I spotlight riversidegator's innate hypocrisy and duplicitous instinct.

1)  As we both know, you did not just call me a fascist.  It was worse than that;
2)  You have also personally criticized me in your very next post while hiding behind your own screen name.  How unremarkable.  And, how did someone as "remarkable" as you wind up in Jacksonville, "an unremarkable Southern city";
2)  We are discussing public figures so it is fair to criticize them;
3)  You have insulted me and others personally by calling names as if we were in a school yard.  Start acting mature and your posts will not be deleted.

so, what is a "criticism"  in the case of a "public figure" is an "insult" in the case of a riversidegator?

You never give up. 

I think that by putting forth all the details of your life here, that also makes you a public figure. You show no restraint in the language and form in your criticisms of anyone who disagrees with your views, you conduct yourself in a flippant manner, they cry foul when the same tactics are applied to you.

You are an unintentional comic genius. Both funny and sad.

Everybody's going bankrupt, you need to find some bankruptcies to do, instead of "blogging" all day.

Let's see.  Let me make this real clear for you midway:  Calling someone's ideas or beliefs wrongheaded and explaining why is ok.  Calling someone an idiot for disagreeing with you not ok.  Personally attacking a public figure (e.g. an elected figure or someone running for office) is ok (although not usually terribly persuasive) within the bounds of decency.  Personally attacking a fellow poster is not allowed.

And, I am not a public figure and have not chosen to reveal my identity.  But whether or not someone chooses to remain anonymous on here is not relevant to whether or not you may issue personal attacks against them.  Learn this or take your song and dance elsewhere.

[BridgeTroll]

Example:

Riversidegator calls Senator Obama a dangerous socialist. That post stays. Mr. Obama is a United States Senator.

Riversidegator is called a dangerous facist. That post is deleted. Riversidegator claims to be an unremarkable junior attorney in an unremarkable law firm in an unremarkable southern city.

Perhaps riversidegator feels he is owed more respect and deference than the United States Senator representing one of the largest Cities in this country, and that the rules of civil discussion that he imposes upon all other participants in "his" thread don't apply to his own remarks?

Or, perhaps that because Senator Obama has entered the political arena, riversidegator feels that it is not inappropriate to ape the language and insults of  limbaugh and  hannity, being as they are on national media and that usage is found to be acceptable there, and further that their language tends to support his position.

Once again, it is with great pleasure that I spotlight riversidegator's innate hypocrisy and duplicitous instinct.

1)  As we both know, you did not just call me a fascist.  It was worse than that;
2)  You have also personally criticized me in your very next post while hiding behind your own screen name.  How unremarkable.  And, how did someone as "remarkable" as you wind up in Jacksonville, "an unremarkable Southern city";
2)  We are discussing public figures so it is fair to criticize them;
3)  You have insulted me and others personally by calling names as if we were in a school yard.  Start acting mature and your posts will not be deleted.

so, what is a "criticism"  in the case of a "public figure" is an "insult" in the case of a riversidegator?

You never give up. 

I think that by putting forth all the details of your life here, that also makes you a public figure. You show no restraint in the language and form in your criticisms of anyone who disagrees with your views, you conduct yourself in a flippant manner, they cry foul when the same tactics are applied to you.

You are an unintentional comic genius. Both funny and sad.

Everybody's going bankrupt, you need to find some bankruptcies to do, instead of "blogging" all day.

I suggest you take a closer look at yourself...

You show no restraint in the language and form in your criticisms of anyone who disagrees with your views, you conduct yourself in a flippant manner, they cry foul when the same tactics are applied to you.

You are an unintentional comic genius. Both funny and sad.

[Charleston native]

Moral equivalence by Midway.

How convenient.

And typical.

[uptowngirl]

Stephen: "However, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The only insulting posts that get deleted from this thread are those made by non right wing commentors."



RSG:
"Fairness and civility will be maintained.  If you have a problem with something I say, let me know or let some other moderator know.  I need to steer clear of personal insults too.  The rules should apply to everyone, I agree."

I would take him up on it if you feel the need. After all many, many posts ago this is what RSG stated. This should have settled the issue 

[Midway ®]

Uptowngirl, I think you are a little late to this dance.

I will ignore your invitation to leave, however, you may feel free to do so at any time. That is unless you are assuming management of this site, in which case I will go.

And by the way, please find one single instance where i called anyone an idiot. You will not, because i have not done that. Thank you for shooting from the hip and putting words into my mouth. And don't come back and say that those posts were deleted, because there were zero instances of the use of that word.

If you want to crusade for decency and justice, I suggest that you at least get your facts straight before you  launch upon your mission.

And, actually, the only single instance that I can recall of the use of the word idiot was in a post FROM Riversidegator referring to me as such, which in fairness to him, he subsequently deleted after my complaint to him via email.

So, there is more complexity to this than your superficial parsing reveals, and once again, the answers are not as simple as they first appear.

[Midway ®]

And, Riverside, I will be sure to clear any communication I might be contemplating with you, prior to my contacting anyone.

Just one question, though, would it be alright to send emails to people NOT associated with Metrojacksionville without your approval, or should I clear ALL of my emails through you? What about phone calls?

Thanks.

[uptowngirl]

Uptowngirl, I think you are a little late to this dance.

I will ignore your invitation to leave, however, you may feel free to do so at any time. That is unless you are assuming management of this site, in which case I will go.

And by the way, please find one single instance where i called anyone an idiot. You will not, because i have not done that. Thank you for shooting from the hip and putting words into my mouth. And don't come back and say that those posts were deleted, because there were zero instances of the use of that word.

If you want to crusade for decency and justice, I suggest that you at least get your facts straight before you  launch upon your mission.

And, actually, the only single instance that I can recall of the use of the word idiot was in a post FROM Riversidegator referring to me as such, which in fairness to him, he subsequently deleted after my complaint to him via email.

So, there is more complexity to this than your superficial parsing reveals, and once again, the answers are not as simple as they first appear.

As usual I have no idea what you are talking about.

[RiversideGator]

And, Riverside, I will be sure to clear any communication I might be contemplating with you, prior to my contacting anyone.

Just one question, though, would it be alright to send emails to people NOT associated with Metrojacksionville without your approval, or should I clear ALL of my emails through you? What about phone calls?

Thanks.

Just go ahead and run any major decision by me first before you do anything.  Thanks.   

[Midway ®]

Now, back to the topic at hand, namely Russia and Georgia.

Do you wonder where the president of Georgia got the strange idea that the USA would stand behind him when he essentially declared war on Russia by attacking Ossetia?

Since Karl Rove skipped out on his subpoena to appear before the House Judiciary Committee last month, the whereabouts of Bush’s longtime political strategist have emergedâ€"Rove was in Crimea, Ukraine, for the fifth annual Yalta European Strategy summit. Also in attendance: former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili. Here’s an excerpt from his panel discussion about how U.S. policy toward Ukraine would change, if at all, after November’s American presidential elections.

http://justiceleague00.blogspot.com/2008/08/roves-yalta-european-strategy-summit.html

Rove was whispering into Saakashvili's ear, hoping to precipitate a full blown war between Georgia and Russia, which would divert voter's attention from the economy, and social woes, to reinvigorate the "cold war". If the election can be reframed so that the specter of communism and the USSR can dominate the election, McCain wins. Rove played Saakashvili like an English concertina. that's why he looked like all of his blood had been drained from him when he was standing next to Condi and signing the treaty, because he knew he had been double crossed. So now Rove is formulating US foreign policy as well, which would be a violation of federal law.

[RiversideGator]

lol.

Midway, thats pretty hilarious.

You can also always come to our Tuesday Night public meetings at Hola in springfield.

River isnt nervy enough to come to them.

Actually, I am too busy with work and family obligations and therefore do not have time to join another organization.  I certainly support the goals of MetroJacksonville locally however and am making my own contributions to urban core living in my own way.

[Midway ®]

Uptowngirl, I think you are a little late to this dance.

I will ignore your invitation to leave, however, you may feel free to do so at any time. That is unless you are assuming management of this site, in which case I will go.

And by the way, please find one single instance where i called anyone an idiot. You will not, because i have not done that. Thank you for shooting from the hip and putting words into my mouth. And don't come back and say that those posts were deleted, because there were zero instances of the use of that word.

If you want to crusade for decency and justice, I suggest that you at least get your facts straight before you  launch upon your mission.

And, actually, the only single instance that I can recall of the use of the word idiot was in a post FROM Riversidegator referring to me as such, which in fairness to him, he subsequently deleted after my complaint to him via email.

So, there is more complexity to this than your superficial parsing reveals, and once again, the answers are not as simple as they first appear.

As usual I have no idea what you are talking about.

A. Which does not surprise me.
B. So you should stay out of this.

[Midway ®]

And, Riverside, I will be sure to clear any communication I might be contemplating with you, prior to my contacting anyone.

Just one question, though, would it be alright to send emails to people NOT associated with Metrojacksionville without your approval, or should I clear ALL of my emails through you? What about phone calls?

Thanks.

Just go ahead and run any major decision by me first before you do anything.  Thanks.   

Please define what you mean by "major".  Would ordering pizza be considered major, or just the decision regarding toppings?

[RiversideGator]

http://justiceleague00.blogspot.com/2008/08/roves-yalta-european-strategy-summit.html

Rove was whispering into Saakashvili's ear, hoping to precipitate a full blown war between Georgia and Russia, which would divert voter's attention from the economy, and social woes, to reinvigorate the "cold war". If the election can be reframed so that the specter of communism and the USSR can dominate the election, McCain wins. Rove played Saakashvili like an English concertina. that's why he looked like all of his blood had been drained from him when he was standing next to Condi and signing the treaty, because he knew he had been double crossed. So now Rove is formulating US foreign policy as well, which would be a violation of federal law.

Is your source for this really a blog which cartoon characters as its masthead??   

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to find "crimes" which the evil puppet-master, Rove, supposedly committed. 

[Midway ®]

As I said, if you can reframe the election into a cold war type situation, which is essentially to roll back the clock 30 years, mcCain is in his prime.

[RiversideGator]

And, Riverside, I will be sure to clear any communication I might be contemplating with you, prior to my contacting anyone.

Just one question, though, would it be alright to send emails to people NOT associated with Metrojacksionville without your approval, or should I clear ALL of my emails through you? What about phone calls?

Thanks.

Just go ahead and run any major decision by me first before you do anything.  Thanks.   

Please define what you mean by "major".  Would ordering pizza be considered major, or just the decision regarding toppings?

Both.  I think you need a little micromanaging right now.