220 Riverside Breaks Ground: A New Day For Brooklyn?

[John P]

Thanks Barakat. "It doesnt fit what we are trying to do but I voted on it anyways because of money."
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[thelakelander]

I'm not sure what the DIA approved but I hope its not the current retail center design, which has never went before the DDRB.  Assuming things remain the same as previously shown, this is what 220 Riverside, Riverside YMCA, and Pope & Land's projects look like together:

[Captain Zissou]

So they know it's bad design, but they gave them the go ahead??  Was this approval purely for funding?  Do they have to go back through DDRB, or is this the design we can expect in 2014??

The aerial looks good, but it could be so much better with a better layout at the Pope and Land site.  If 220 does well, imagine what will go to the east of the project on that block....... Mmmmmmm 12 stories..........

[thelakelander]

Even today, I can live with the residential layout of Pope & Land's gated apartments.  It's not ideal but it could be a lot worse.  However, the retail portion definitely needs to be revisited.  Parking doesn't necessarily need to be structured but it should at least resemble what Sembler did with the Publix and Margaret Street retail shops in Riverside. 

As for the DDRB, the residential portion has already been approved.  However, I don't believe the retail portion has ever been submitted for design review.

[dougskiles]

The discussion at DIA was centered around the residential development of the Pope & Land site.  Their "approval" was really more of a resolution of support because until DIA has adopted a CRA plan they don't have any authority on the matter.  The approval authority stays with City Council until the CRA plan is adopted.

[PeeJayEss]

^I agree with you guys on finding a way to at least add a real skyway station at the maintenance center.  It would really suck if these developments open in 2014, with a grocery store, and the Northbank/Southbank residents are still required to drive to reach it despite the skyway being across the street.

On the aerial, it looks like it would be pretty easy. What are there, three tracks outside the maintenance building? The distance between the outer two looks almost big enough for a station. Or, since its the end of the line, you could build it over the parking lot on May. Though it would be nice if it could be extended the extra block or two into the middle of all this development.

I can't believe I never noticed that jug-handle! Is that thing just for people coming over the Acosta headed for the TU building? That's gotta be at least 5 cars a day! Any possibility of that block being redeveloped, or will it be cut in half with a useless piece of road on it forever?

[urbaknight]

The parking lot just north of 220 on riverside ave looks too suburban! I think the residentals look ok I guess. If they can redesign them and make better (more urban) I think they should. But get rid of that damn SS style parking lot!

[sdmjax]

What will the apartments look like? I could see moving there..Is Jacksonville finally growing up?

[ProjectMaximus]

Hey, does anyone know about the hotel portion of this project? Is that just speculation that may come in a future phase or is it definitely planned? I ask because I was actually in a meeting the other day where a Hallmark rep mentioned something about a hotel...but I was distracted and didn't actually hear what she said before or after. Only heard it mentioned lol.

[loadking]

yes the commecial hotel is coming to brooklyn and u wil get more news on this nextweek

[ProjectMaximus]

awesome, thanks!

[thelakelander]

Where will the hotel be located? The last parcel between 200 Riverside and Fresh Market retail center?

[tufsu1]

^ west of the pond across Magnolia Street.  I believe it will be a new product type aimed at millenials.

[Tacachale]

Cool! So is it related to the other projects or something new?

[thelakelander]

^ west of the pond across Magnolia Street.  I believe it will be a new product type aimed at millenials.

So, the space shown across the street in this plan?