More LaVilla buildings being demolished?

Started by thelakelander, January 07, 2014, 03:35:07 PM

strider

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Quote from: joshuataylor on January 07, 2014, 09:27:21 PM
via property appraisers site, 801 was built in 1902, but also has an effective built year of 1970. any insight into what this means?

All that generally means is that major work was done in 1970.  It may have been connected legally to the other addresses/ building or a major remodel that made significant changes. Often, the date of those changes are also mistakenly picked up as the effective or even the actual year built.

If these buildings are going to be renovated, it could take a month or more for the permitting process alone.  Demolition permits will be a walk through as they are not landmarked but the actual process will take a few weeks as there are a few inspections that take place on regular demolitions. If they are being demolished with the help of Municipal Code Compliance then the permits won't be pulled until after they are gone as Ms Scott prefers to circumvent the law rather than follow it herself.
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aubureck

These properties were recently declared a local landmark by the Jacksonville Historic Preservation Commission.  The approval is pending City Council action.
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JaxUnicorn

Lakelander, Strider checked for permits and I checked this morning as well.  Here's what I see:

801 W Forsyth 1988 Electrical Upgrade
805 W Forsyth 1999 Building Reinforce exterior wall
825 W Forsyth NONE

Like Strider said, Kim Scott is notorious for pulling demo permits AFTER the demolition has begun or been completed.  The buildings don't appear appear that demolition is looming based on the photographs in this thread.  Before we get all up in arms about something we need to be certain what is going on.  Maybe...just MAYBE...someone is going to renovate!  (slurks back into the shadows after that comment)
Kim Pryor...Historic Springfield Resident...PSOS Founding Member

thelakelander

^Those are old photographs from an article I wrote a year or two ago.  They look completely different right now. There's tape around them, 801 clearly has no roof and there's a construction dumpster on W. Forsyth Street. Something is being done, I was just trying to figure out if it's a demo or renovation.
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thelakelander

I've been told that the roof is being repaired and the buildings are being cleared of trash.
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JaxUnicorn

Driving home today I decided to stop by these buildings to see what I could see.  The white building was open and when I poked my head inside, a man by the name of Brian asked me what I wanted.  I explained I was trying to figure out what was being done and he told me he works for Tipco (?) and they've been contracted by the City of Jacksonville to renovate the buildings in an attempt to get someone to move in.  I mentioned I saw no permits and he assured me they had been pulled (I still don't see any). 

He asked if I wanted to see the inside of 801 and of course I said YES!  Here are some photographs I took today.















And these are of the attached building also being renovated.  He would not allow me inside this one so I took some photos from outside the building.
















Kim Pryor...Historic Springfield Resident...PSOS Founding Member

Tacachale

Well, this is some pleasant and unexpected news.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

joshuataylor

I could have sworn I saw new windows driving past last week. I guess the extra light from the missing roof made them appear different from the car. Oh well, good news for our historic building fabric either way.

mbwright

I'm sure surprised Chris is doing something with one of his properties.  maybe a new years resolution?

icarus

With the condemned notice, code enforcement is involved. Perhaps they are using the federal money to stabilize the building ???

JaxUnicorn

Quote from: icarus on January 08, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
With the condemned notice, code enforcement is involved. Perhaps they are using the federal money to stabilize the building ???
Seems like that could be a possibility icarus.  Especially since the guy said the City had contracted them to do the renovations.  And if that's the case, a Section 106 review is required...and we all know how those go....
Kim Pryor...Historic Springfield Resident...PSOS Founding Member

icarus

Well, if Historic Preservation has already preliminarily marked them as landmark .. its quite possible .. I know if I was code enforcement I'd be looking for any good press I could get

ChriswUfGator

What great old buildings with rich history, I'm glad they're evidently being preserved. That and the last thing anybody needs around here is another demolition.


Noone

Quote from: JaxUnicorn on January 08, 2014, 12:25:19 PM
Driving home today I decided to stop by these buildings to see what I could see.  The white building was open and when I poked my head inside, a man by the name of Brian asked me what I wanted.  I explained I was trying to figure out what was being done and he told me he works for Tipco (?) and they've been contracted by the City of Jacksonville to renovate the buildings in an attempt to get someone to move in.  I mentioned I saw no permits and he assured me they had been pulled (I still don't see any). 

He asked if I wanted to see the inside of 801 and of course I said YES!  Here are some photographs I took today.















And these are of the attached building also being renovated.  He would not allow me inside this one so I took some photos from outside the building.



















WOW! WOW! WOW! Contracted by the city of Jacksonville! Everyone just think now of the statement made at the last DIA Board meeting by Board member Mike Saylor and this new DIA will dictate what will now happen with the new 3miles of Riverfront that will go through the middle of our Urban Core.

mbwright

No need to quote all of the pictures to make a point.   
Mike Saylor is a good guy, and brings a bit of sense to this.  I hope it all works out well.