SUVs suck......now even the Americans think so.

Started by stephendare, June 02, 2007, 10:26:06 PM

kbhanson3

^Environmentalists not welcome here?  Where's your southern hospitality?

dougskiles

My dislike of SUVs is purely selfish.  I can't see around them when I am trying to back out of a parking space in my car.

fsquid

we have one SUV for towing, moving things, etc. and a sedan.  I use the sedan to commute while the wife uses the SUV on a daily basis since she doesn't go far away from home on a regular basis.

I-10east

Quote from: coredumped on December 09, 2013, 02:21:58 PM
I don't get all the hate for people who drive pickups or SUVs. If YOU don't want to drive one, then don't!
Besides, I occasionally have to tow my boat, what should I do? Get another vehicle? Sure, most people with these vehicles don't need them, but if it's what they prefer then so be it. People spend a lot of money on luxury cars, good for them, it's not for me - but you won't see me calling them dumb for doing what makes them happy.

+1000

kbhanson3

I'm sensing a little hostility from the SUV supporters.  My comments re SUV's were tongue in cheek.  I get that many SUV's and pickup serve a practical purpose.  However, SUV's have also been the vogue choice for many who never tow anything and never go offroad, in other words people who really have no practical need for them.  That was me for a long time.  I'm tall and I convinced myself that I needed an SUV because they were roomier than sedans.  I've found that not to be the case.  So for me a more fuel efficient, smaller car works.

I respect personal choice and that there is nothing wrong with choosing to drive an SUV for no reason other than it is the vehicle you prefer.  However, it would be a good thing for the environment IMO if a more fuel efficient vehicle were to become the vogue choice for soccer moms and others who have no practical need for a heavy vehicle.  Again, getting back to personal choice, and the fact that I don't want to be banished to Portland....

NotNow

My NRA Life Membership stickers and hunting lease decals just don't look right on a Prius.  Besides, they don't make a 4WD version. 

Seriously, thanks for being an environmentalist.  All I ask is that you educate yourself as much as possible, and walk the walk and not just talk.  I find most people that want to lecture me about my 4WD have no real idea of what they are talking about and are just repeating what they read in huffpo.
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fsquid

Quote from: kbhanson3 on December 10, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
I'm sensing a little hostility from the SUV supporters.  My comments re SUV's were tongue in cheek.  I get that many SUV's and pickup serve a practical purpose.  However, SUV's have also been the vogue choice for many who never tow anything and never go offroad, in other words people who really have no practical need for them.  That was me for a long time.  I'm tall and I convinced myself that I needed an SUV because they were roomier than sedans.  I've found that not to be the case.  So for me a more fuel efficient, smaller car works.

I respect personal choice and that there is nothing wrong with choosing to drive an SUV for no reason other than it is the vehicle you prefer.  However, it would be a good thing for the environment IMO if a more fuel efficient vehicle were to become the vogue choice for soccer moms and others who have no practical need for a heavy vehicle.  Again, getting back to personal choice, and the fact that I don't want to be banished to Portland....

sounds like a marketing issue.

kbhanson3

Quote from: NotNow on December 10, 2013, 09:19:47 AM
My NRA Life Membership stickers and hunting lease decals just don't look right on a Prius.  Besides, they don't make a 4WD version. 

Seriously, thanks for being an environmentalist.  All I ask is that you educate yourself as much as possible, and walk the walk and not just talk.  I find most people that want to lecture me about my 4WD have no real idea of what they are talking about and are just repeating what they read in huffpo.
I'm not interested in lecturing anyone. And I'm not trying to get on an environmental soap box.  All I'm saying is that the car I'm driving now gets 42 mpg and my SUV got 12 mpg.  It was pretty simple math for me.  And it's one small contribution that I can make to the growing greenhouse gas problem.  But I'm not suggesting that trade off works for everyone.

I'm wondering why there seems to be so much anger from the pro-SUV posters.

NotNow

My comments were meant to be light hearted.  My point about "lecturing", as StephenDare! pointed out, was to remind us of all of our responsibility to research our own positions.  Or "check ourselves".  A good policy no matter what your particular bent is.
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BridgeTroll

Quote from: kbhanson3 on December 10, 2013, 09:50:29 AM
Quote from: NotNow on December 10, 2013, 09:19:47 AM
My NRA Life Membership stickers and hunting lease decals just don't look right on a Prius.  Besides, they don't make a 4WD version. 

Seriously, thanks for being an environmentalist.  All I ask is that you educate yourself as much as possible, and walk the walk and not just talk.  I find most people that want to lecture me about my 4WD have no real idea of what they are talking about and are just repeating what they read in huffpo.
I'm not interested in lecturing anyone. And I'm not trying to get on an environmental soap box.  All I'm saying is that the car I'm driving now gets 42 mpg and my SUV got 12 mpg.  It was pretty simple math for me.  And it's one small contribution that I can make to the growing greenhouse gas problem.  But I'm not suggesting that trade off works for everyone.

I'm wondering why there seems to be so much anger from the pro-SUV posters.

Ya think it may be because they all get lumped into the "My NRA Life Membership stickers and hunting lease decals " group?  I dont have an SUV... never had a need.  I may need one once I get my new boat.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

NotNow

I encourage all of you to join the NRA.  There is no rule against putting an NRA sticker on your little effeminate car.  :)
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Dog Walker

People are driving the new, small SUV's because the auto makers quit making station wagons.  If you have two kids in safety seats, a dog and a load of groceries, sedans just don't cut it.
When all else fails hug the dog.