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Started by 02roadking, October 17, 2011, 08:22:01 PM

duvaldude08

One thing I agree with in the article is about the size of new NFL venues shirking. If you really look hard that the NFL last season, most team's attendance was between 55,000-69,000. Gone are the days of 80,000 and 90,000 seat stadiums. You have teams with historical fan bases such as the Steelers, and our attendance is running neck and neck with theirs every year. The luxury of sitting home has taken over. I think we are going to see more teams build smallers stadiums or reduce the capacity of their current stadium. Heck the redskins has reduce their capcity like two or three times already.
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I-10east

Man, I almost forgot about this Thursday Night Game, KC at PHI. Not that Philly are worldbeaters by no means, but the Chiefs are looking good up 16-6 right now with a lil' to go in the half. Atleast the Jags didn't get beat by a fluky team in week one, a lil' solace LOL

tufsu1

Quote from: duvaldude08 on September 13, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
One thing I agree with in the article is about the size of new NFL venues shirking. If you really look hard that the NFL last season, most team's attendance was between 55,000-69,000. Gone are the days of 80,000 and 90,000 seat stadiums. You have teams with historical fan bases such as the Steelers, and our attendance is running neck and neck with theirs every year. The luxury of sitting home has taken over. I think we are going to see more teams build smallers stadiums or reduce the capacity of their current stadium. Heck the redskins has reduce their capcity like two or three times already.

well yes we match the Steelers...the difference is they have a waiting list for tickets...as for the Redskins, they first enlarged their stadium and now have reduced it....but it still holds close to 80,000....and then there's the new seats at Green Bay that will bring their capacity to near 100,000

Elwood

With the addition of the new seats at Green Bay, the capacity is 80,750.

WmNussbaum

For The Atlantic Monthly's recent report on NFL finances go here: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/

It makes for some very interesting reading. I'm in the "Libraries yes. Jumbotron/swimming pools no" camp.

tufsu1

Quote from: Elwood on September 20, 2013, 01:14:38 AM
With the addition of the new seats at Green Bay, the capacity is 80,750.

they aren't finished...I believe there is more planned for next year

BridgeTroll

Quote from: tufsu1 on September 20, 2013, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Elwood on September 20, 2013, 01:14:38 AM
With the addition of the new seats at Green Bay, the capacity is 80,750.

they aren't finished...I believe there is more planned for next year

They are finished with regards to seating.  Lambeau is a 365 days a year facility... upgrading and renovating the tourist attractions within the stadium are continuous...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Lambeau-Field-Atrium-renovations-set-to-begin-this-offseason/e9a4199f-07cd-4f1a-a7df-aab745159023

QuoteLambeau Field Atrium renovations set to begin this offseason

Posted Jan 8, 2013

The Green Bay Packers will begin renovations to the Lambeau Field Atrium this offseason and will continue work on the project through the next two offseasons, with work scheduled to be fully complete in June of 2015.

Highlights of the project include a new Packers Pro Shop, located in what will be a revamped lower level of the Atrium, new locations for the Packers Hall of Fame and Curly's Pub, a new east-side entry gate to enhance ingress and egress, and a larger Oneida Nation Gate that includes a plaza area and a more prominent connection to Oneida Street.

Additionally, the players' parking lot will move to the south side of the Oneida Nation Gate, with access via a tunnel under the enlarged gate. This enhancement will further open up access to the east side of the Atrium, with parking adjacent to the new east side entrance.

"We're excited to begin work this offseason on the Atrium renovation," said Packers President/CEO Mark Murphy. "We're looking forward to providing all our guests an even better experience. The design and new layout will benefit everyone."

The project, with a cost of $140.5 million, is the final phase of stadium renovation work that began in 2011 and included a new sound system, new video boards, two new gates and approximately 7,000 new seats in the south end zone. Funding for this phase will come from the Packers through private financing ($85.5 million) and a loan from the NFL G4 program ($55 million). In total, including the current project in the south end zone, renovations to the stadium will cost $286.5 million, with no funding coming from public tax money.

During the course of the renovation, the Packers Pro Shop will remain open as it transitions from its current to its new location. The Packers Hall of Fame and Curly's Pub will close while their new locations are being constructed. The date and duration of closing periods will be determined when more detailed construction plans are established.

In addition to the public areas, the football facilities will receive some upgrades as well, including space for conditioning and team walkthroughs. This aspect of the renovations keeps the team's football operations up-to-date with the latest technology and best practices.

This phase of the renovation will continue to be an economic impact and benefit to the community. The second phase is expected to employ approximately 1,500 workers over the next two years and provide more than $60 million in wages
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

duvaldude08

I was just reading an article and they are blasting Fischer and says he is struggling BAD. Really bad, and he was struggling in camp also. They also pointed out Jockel has struggled some, but Fischer has been horrifc. All in all looks like we got the better deal so far.
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KenFSU

Quote from: duvaldude08 on September 13, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
One thing I agree with in the article is about the size of new NFL venues shirking. If you really look hard that the NFL last season, most team's attendance was between 55,000-69,000. Gone are the days of 80,000 and 90,000 seat stadiums. You have teams with historical fan bases such as the Steelers, and our attendance is running neck and neck with theirs every year. The luxury of sitting home has taken over. I think we are going to see more teams build smallers stadiums or reduce the capacity of their current stadium. Heck the redskins has reduce their capcity like two or three times already.

One other thing that's worth pointing out is that average NFL ticket prices have continuously skyrocketed far past the rate of inflation, particularly since 1991. Surely the home theater experience is keeping a lot of people at home on Sundays, but the NFL has also done a really great job pricing out the middle class fan in the last decade or two. Attendance league-wide has dipped about 1% annually for the last five seasons, meanwhile ticket prices creep up about 2.5% each year. Something's gotta give there. I consider our ticket prices fairly reasonable compared to other NFL cities, but when customers start to feel like they are getting gouged via $80 average ticket prices in publicly-subsidized stadiums, you can't pin all of the blame on flat screen TVs and cheap pizza.

Keith-N-Jax

What a disaster that was in Tennessee by the Chargers. They choked another away.

duvaldude08

What did yall think about the Panthers shutting out the Giants. Never seen that one coming. Especially not 38-0. But the Panthers defense seems to be dramitcally improved this year.
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thelakelander

Don't care. Screw the Giants. The Dolphins are going to make the playoffs this year and Team Ebony Stud will Mercury Morris their way through MJ's fantasy league by running the table undefeated 1972-style!
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: thelakelander on September 22, 2013, 11:40:24 PM
Don't care. Screw the Giants. The Dolphins are going to make the playoffs this year and Team Ebony Stud will Mercury Morris their way through MJ's fantasy league by running the table undefeated 1972-style!

Sorry to spoil the party, but you'll be more like your AFC East Brethren.

You can go undefeated the regular season, win a playoff game or two, but some Championship Time....

More like 2007 style... . 18-1

Undefeated regular season isn't so bad, though.
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Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: thelakelander on September 22, 2013, 11:40:24 PM
Don't care. Screw the Giants. The Dolphins are going to make the playoffs this year and Team Ebony Stud will Mercury Morris their way through MJ's fantasy league by running the table undefeated 1972-style!

Get them to hand off to Lamar Miller more often!
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