Are We Poised for a War in Syria?

[If_I_Loved_you]

France plans to help and once we are getting down and dirty some other countries will help us out.

Hollande said he would like to do it but I think he's going to wait until the UN report comes out and I don't even think he's going to publicly speak about it until Congress votes next week. 

If we're relying on France to have our back, somehow that doesn't make me feel any better!  

Yeah, when things get down and dirty I'm sure we can count on the Netherlands to send 45 troops and maybe Australia will send 20 translators to help.  Why would anyone jump into the quagmire after they realize that the US is stuck and we'll have to fight our way out of it?

I will say this if we don't go in it's not going to be because what Iran would do? It will be because of the Modern Day Hippie and the Republicans other then John McCain and a few others. But this Powder Keg doesn't go away. One day the poo will hit the fan.

[Ajax]

I will say this if we don't go in it's not going to be because what Iran would do? It will be because of the Modern Day Hippie and the Republicans other then John McCain and a few others. But this Powder Keg doesn't go away. One day the poo will hit the fan.

Seems like you just want the poo to hit the fan sooner rather than later. 

[If_I_Loved_you]

I will say this if we don't go in it's not going to be because what Iran would do? It will be because of the Modern Day Hippie and the Republicans other then John McCain and a few others. But this Powder Keg doesn't go away. One day the poo will hit the fan.

Seems like you just want the poo to hit the fan sooner rather than later. 

[ChriswUfGator]

Ok well now Russia says if we go in they'll respond, and sends 8 warships over there. That's not a tinpot dictatorship we're used to going to war against, they can sit in a bunker and annihilate us the same as we can them. You've got to be kidding me, we're actually risking a real war over what, Syria? Why? I'm going to basically ignore this whole thing as hot air, everybody has too much to lose for it to actually turn into anything at this point.

[JayBird]

^ kind of curious as to what you were describing as "tinpot" ... Look how long Iraq an Afghanistan conflicts were/have been, desert storm was longer than anticipated and Korea and Vietnam were worse than what Syria is ... But that isn't saying much. I agree we have no business there, but I cannot think of any "easy" military conflict we've engaged in the past.

[ChriswUfGator]

^ kind of curious as to what you were describing as "tinpot" ... Look how long Iraq an Afghanistan conflicts were/have been, desert storm was longer than anticipated and Korea and Vietnam were worse than what Syria is ... But that isn't saying much. I agree we have no business there, but I cannot think of any "easy" military conflict we've engaged in the past.

Saddam Hussein was a classic tinpot dictator, no military strength to speak of. Russia's a different story. For what it's worth you may want to retrace the history of those two wars, we deposed their respective governments almost immediately, but then spent a decade fighting insurrection amongst the actual people who mostly didn't want us there. We didn't have a choice, after toppling their governments we realized 'oh wait a minute, they're surrounded by even more scary people who we like even less, and we'd rather Iran not take the place over the second we leave' so you then have to rebuild it and prop up a friendly government indefinitely.

Even if they didn't have backing from an actual power, or else assuming Obama makes some backroom deal with Putin to get him out of the way, then how is Syria going to turn out any different? And what makes that even remotely worth it? When it comes to that region; you broke it you bought it.

[JayBird]

^ no I agree, now that I see what you were meaning. Of course I also believe that if we strike like we had done in Baghdad, then Assad will flee quickly. I think a lot of ppl think that and that's where the conflict comes, why should we spend another 10+ years trying to build them up too? They are proposing it as a punishment, but what do you do once the punishment has been delivered? Leave and let whomever calls dibs first take over so that we can go back in five years when WWIII is fully in action?

[JayBird]

Sometimes, I really miss Slick Willy

[ChriswUfGator]

Sometimes, I really miss Slick Willy

Lmao that literally made me laugh out loud, good find

[JayBird]

IILY, I noticed you chose republicans. I would like to point out that just because I choose to side with republican thought most of the time, it does not mean one cannot agree with the democratic way at others. After all, we are all after a better country for us and our children.

[If_I_Loved_you]

IILY, I noticed you chose republicans. I would like to point out that just because I choose to side with republican thought most of the time, it does not mean one cannot agree with the democratic way at others. After all, we are all after a better country for us and our children.

I do chose to make fun of Republicans most of the Time here on Metro Jacksonville this is for sure. You can look at the "Political Cartoons" I post a lot of times they bash Republicans and others. But lately I have posted some P.C. of My President Obama looking foolish? 

[ChriswUfGator]

Sometimes, I really miss Slick Willy

Lmao that literally made me laugh out loud, good find

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Oh be nice, I'm a democrat and loved Clinton...but funny is funny!

[If_I_Loved_you]

Over the last couple of weeks I have heard the not so great Rush Limbaugh and others quote from a media source called the "MINT PRESS NEWS?" If you put your faith into this so called news agency then you also believe in the Easter Bunny? Here is what Wikipedia has said about Mint Press News:

Mint Press News (MPN) is a US news website established in January 2012, based in Minnesota.[1] Founded by Mnar A. Muhawesh, a Minnesota-born daughter of Palestinian immigrants, and journalism graduate of St. Cloud State University, it aims to bring foreign news to a US audience, with a particular focus on the Middle East.[2] In September 2013 it listed ten reporters on its website.[3]

In September 2013 MPN's reporting, allegedly based on interviews with rebels in Damascus, that the Al-Nusra Front was responsible for the 2013 Ghouta attacks attracted marginal attention and was picked up by Voice of Russia and Press TV.[4][5][6][7][8][9]

The editor has investors, "retired businesspeople", but she will not name them — "unfortunate for a journalism operation fighting alongside people seeking transparency. The site's "About Us" page is similarly skinny." [10] Her father-in-law Odeh A. Muhawesh — an adjunct St. Thomas theology professor, and veteran Twin Cities businessman — is a key adviser. The Odeh Muhawesh Fan page on Facebook starts at the top with a link to Iran Press TV and carries much anti Syrian rebel material. Mint Press News has been characterized as a 'Shia advocacy site' on PJ Media.[11][unreliable source?]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint_Press_News


Mint Press News is a joke at best or a terrorist ? at worst!

[If_I_Loved_you]

If President Obama doesn't strike Syria because the House & Senate members vote it down. Anymore Chemical Weapon, Bombing or shooting deaths by the Syria Army I will blame those House & Senate members for these deaths!!!

[JeffreyS]

So now Syria is saying it will give up it's chemical weapons.  http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Is there any chance that bombing would have gotten better results? 

Is there any doubt that going through the process with Congress created the situation where Syria would want to give them up?

I think the President is wrong to want to do this with the military but what a difference between using the American system of the debating in the marketplace of ideas to make a case and running off on our own cowboy diplomacy style.

He has proven he is serious (I am still worried he won't be dissuaded) without firing a shot.