Are We Poised for a War in Syria?

[If_I_Loved_you]

Well, if it means anything, they are starting to deploy people out of Mayport.  Several got their orders in the last few days to ship out to the Mediterranean by air and catch their boats en route.

They have been drilling a lot the last few weeks. If anything they are getting people ready.

It was also reported today that the Russian Navy is dispatching 2 ships to the area. A guided missile frigate and a anti-submarine destroyer.

Anytime you get a lot of military action in one location, some one is going to make a mistake and bad things happen.

I drove by N.A.S. on Roosevelt today and saw some tents I haven't seen before near Allegheny Rd on base?

[Cheshire Cat]

Well, IILU if you would "love" to send in cruise missiles, innocents will die.  So yes, in a way you are saying you are willing to see innocent people die because you feel someone needs to be taught a lesson.  But my question is what "is" the real lesson and the reality of such action?  Blood and death of innocent people is as bad as it gets.  How in the world you rationalize that not sending our own young men and women to die in another land because some monster named Bashar is killing his own people and we are then as culpable as he is astounds and confounds me.  It is the people of his country that must rise up to fight this type of action and make the way for a real and lasting change.  It is not our job and frankly I am tired of this mindset that has made it our job for too long.  Yes support those in need in whatever non violent way that we can, even helping with intelligence and strategies giving most of our support to refugees, the injured, the ill and the innocent.  Provide medical help, food, water, clothing, education, whatever, but do not spill our children's blood in a land that can only be changed from within.  I did not say you were perfect but seriously, I just don't get how people who claim to love a man named Jesus can "love" the idea of bombing others.  In all honesty, how would you explain that statement to Jesus, face to face?  Do you think he would say, yeah go ahead kill whomever you need to kill, including the innocent among the bad to make a point?  I am curious to know how those who claim to follow Christian teachings square this sort of action in the face of the teachings of Jesus. I don't know why I imagine that quoting scripture should also include following it to some degree.  Crazy me.

[If_I_Loved_you]

Yes, we do nothing to further engage a violent situation that we didn't create and that we cannot fix. We do not engage but we help those who have fled, who are injured, who need medicine and any other non violent thing we can do to support them. Let the U.N. handle this situation and the amount of force used to respond.  We are not the world's police and the truth is they hate us for our interference when we go and complain we are at fault when we do nothing.  News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.  We can only decide how many of our own youth we are willing to lose in a conflict that is not ours to settle.  This has nothing to do with heads in the sand but is rather about looking squarely at the reality of war in a country where nothing will be solved by our involvement.

(News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.) Diane all we are doing is letting off steam the powers in control care about nothing we say!

[Cheshire Cat]

Yes, we do nothing to further engage a violent situation that we didn't create and that we cannot fix. We do not engage but we help those who have fled, who are injured, who need medicine and any other non violent thing we can do to support them. Let the U.N. handle this situation and the amount of force used to respond.  We are not the world's police and the truth is they hate us for our interference when we go and complain we are at fault when we do nothing.  News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.  We can only decide how many of our own youth we are willing to lose in a conflict that is not ours to settle.  This has nothing to do with heads in the sand but is rather about looking squarely at the reality of war in a country where nothing will be solved by our involvement.

(News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.) Diane all we are doing is letting off steam the powers in control care about nothing we say!

I am not letting off steam.  I am saying I have had enough of war mongering and the death of our youth in lands where their death will change "nothing".  I am not alone in these feelings and my guess is that if enough people speak up and out about the fact that we have had it with world policing and the driving of an out of control military industry, we can at least mitigate some of the violence and death.  This is much more to me than letting off steam and I will always look for non violent resolution to conflicts over violence and death.  I will be contacting the countries senators and congress members as well as the President to let them know that we should "not" engage this dispute in Syria.

[Cheshire Cat]

Well, if it means anything, they are starting to deploy people out of Mayport.  Several got their orders in the last few days to ship out to the Mediterranean by air and catch their boats en route.

They have been drilling a lot the last few weeks. If anything they are getting people ready.

It was also reported today that the Russian Navy is dispatching 2 ships to the area. A guided missile frigate and a anti-submarine destroyer.

Anytime you get a lot of military action in one location, some one is going to make a mistake and bad things happen.

I know they are taking such actions and I know the upstanding troops we send will do what they are asked to do. As an American citizen I think we need to stop asking them to die to make a political point and drive a military machine in a country that will not and cannot change until it does so from the inside out on their own.

[If_I_Loved_you]

Well, IILU if you would "love" to send in cruise missiles, innocents will die.  So yes, in a way you are saying you are willing to see innocent people die because you feel someone needs to be taught a lesson.  But my question is what "is" the real lesson and the reality of such action?  Blood and death of innocent people is as bad as it gets.  How in the world you rationalize that not sending our own young men and women to die in another land because some monster named Bashar is killing his own people and we are then as culpable as he is astounds and confounds me.  It is the people of his country that must rise up to fight this type of action and make the way for a real and lasting change.  It is not our job and frankly I am tired of this mindset that has made it our job for too long.  Yes support those in need in whatever non violent way that we can, even helping with intelligence and strategies giving most of our support to refugees, the injured, the ill and the innocent.  Provide medical help, food, water, clothing, education, whatever, but do not spill our children's blood in a land that can only be changed from within.  I did not say your were perfect but seriously, I just don't get how people who claim to love a man named Jesus can "love" the idea of bombing others.  In all honesty, how would you explain that statement to Jesus, face to face?  Do you think he would say, yeah go ahead kill whomever you need to kill, including the innocent among the bad to make a point?  I am curious to know how those who claim to follow Christian teachings square this sort of action in the face of the teachings of Jesus.

Diane the people that want the syrian leader Assad dead do we give them weapons or is this also taboo? The CIA and others have been helping out. But this war in Syria has been going on for two years with over 100,000 killed. I ask God for a lot of things and some things I get an answer to and others I don't. I have almost lost my life twice both times God answered my prayers this is what I believe in my heart. Diane I would love to seat down and talk with Jesus one on one face to face. About everything I have felt about anything. Amen!

[If_I_Loved_you]

Yes, we do nothing to further engage a violent situation that we didn't create and that we cannot fix. We do not engage but we help those who have fled, who are injured, who need medicine and any other non violent thing we can do to support them. Let the U.N. handle this situation and the amount of force used to respond.  We are not the world's police and the truth is they hate us for our interference when we go and complain we are at fault when we do nothing.  News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.  We can only decide how many of our own youth we are willing to lose in a conflict that is not ours to settle.  This has nothing to do with heads in the sand but is rather about looking squarely at the reality of war in a country where nothing will be solved by our involvement.

(News flash, we cannot fix the problems in the middle east.) Diane all we are doing is letting off steam the powers in control care about nothing we say!

I am not letting off steam.  I am saying I have had enough of war mongering and the death of our youth in lands where their death will change "nothing".  I am not alone in these feelings and my guess is that if enough people speak up and out about the fact that we have had it with world policing and the driving of an out of control military industry, we can at least mitigate some of the violence and death.  This is much more to me than letting off steam and I will always look for non violent resolution to conflicts over violence and death.  I will be contacting the countries senators and congress members as well as the President to let them know that we should "not" engage this dispute in Syria.

I sent a letter to President Obama a couple of days ago. I have done this several times when I felt I needed to tell the top man in office at this time until Hillary wins in 2016. How I have felt about major problems in America and the World. 

[JeffreyS]

I called the White House a message today.202-456-1111

I do not want military action in Syria
Congress should vote
and Taxes to pay for it should be enacted before any action is considered.

[Cheshire Cat]

I called the White House a message today.202-456-1111

I do not want military action in Syria
Congress should vote
and Taxes to pay for it should be enacted before any action is considered.

Good job Jeffrey and thank you for posting the phone number.  I hope others will also call and let our leadership know how they feel about the situation with Syria and what roll if any we as a nation should play in it. 

[If_I_Loved_you]

We don't need the UN to go into Syria! http://live.wsj.com/video/why-chemical-weapons-may-spur-syrian-intervention/64402B9A-3EAF-441B-A828-8FB6883FF247.html

[If_I_Loved_you]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/syrian-army-blamed-as-hundreds-die-in-chemical-weapons-attacks/story-e6frg6so-1226701675380

[If_I_Loved_you]

Poll: 67% of Israeli Jews support US attack against Syria

Israel Hayom survey conducted by New Wave Research shows that almost same percentage (66.8%) believe such an attack would drag Israel into war • 57% think IDF will act against specific targets or threats • Over 71% of those questioned have gas masks.

Israel is perhaps the only Western country where there is widespread support for an American/European attack on Syria. While in the United States and Great Britain, some 90 percent of the publics are opposed to such an attack -- in Israel, more than 66% of the Jewish Hebrew-speaking population supports an attack (only 17% opposes). With that, the exact same percentage of the population is concerned that if such an attack occurs, Israel will be drawn into a war.

This duality, which characterizes the Israeli mood and public discourse in recent weeks, receives statistical affirmation in an Israel Hayom survey conducted by New Wave Research.

Israelis believe that ultimately an attack against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime will take place -- close to 73% of Israelis believe so. More than 57% believe if the U.S. attacks Syria, the Israel Defense Forces will act against specific targets or threats. Only 13% think that the situation will deteriorate into all-out war in the Middle East. Over 28.7% said they are not concerned that a U.S. attack will drag Israel into a war.

The survey also found that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has clear advantage over his political rivals as the person most qualified to lead the country: 54% said he is best suited for the job, compared to Opposition Leader and Labor Chairwoman Shelly Yachimovich (9.2%), Habayit Hayehudi Chairman Naftali Bennet (8.6%) and Yesh Atid Chairman Yair Lapid (3%). One quarter of the respondents said they were undecided.

Another statistic of note coming from the survey is that over 71% of those questioned have equipped themselves with a gas mask. Of those who still have not, some 25% said they intended to do so in the coming days (some 7% of all those polled). 37% said they do not intend to get gas masks (some 10% of all those polled), and the same percentage said they have not yet decided.

The survey was conducted on August 28, and is comprised of a random pool of 500 Jewish Hebrew speaking Israelis over the age of 18. There is a margin of error of 4.4 percent.
http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html

[Cheshire Cat]

Unfortunately, these are very hard decisions to make in reality. I go back and forth. We should not be the world police in my opinion. Nor should we try force our ideals on other countries and cultures.

On the other hand, I also understand we are a global society today more than ever. If Syria goes unchecked, then so does Iran, so does North Korea, Pakistan and so forth. And sooner or later the US will have to deal with a real threat from one of these countries because their power and influence and military will grow if unchecked.

As for me currently, I'm back, not forth. We have had too much war in recent memory. Unfortunately for the victims, I don't think the US should intervene in this situation.

I feel like we have a decent sized Syrian population in Jax. I know a bunch anyway. I'd be curious to hear a Syrian-American view on it. 

That would be interesting to know.  If you can ask anyone, please let us know their feelings.

[If_I_Loved_you]

Unfortunately, these are very hard decisions to make in reality. I go back and forth. We should not be the world police in my opinion. Nor should we try force our ideals on other countries and cultures.

On the other hand, I also understand we are a global society today more than ever. If Syria goes unchecked, then so does Iran, so does North Korea, Pakistan and so forth. And sooner or later the US will have to deal with a real threat from one of these countries because their power and influence and military will grow if unchecked.

As for me currently, I'm back, not forth. We have had too much war in recent memory. Unfortunately for the victims, I don't think the US should intervene in this situation.

I feel like we have a decent sized Syrian population in Jax. I know a bunch anyway. I'd be curious to hear a Syrian-American view on it. 

That would be interesting to know.  If you can ask anyone, please let us know their feelings.

Yes we need everybody in the World to agree before Syria pays for killing 1,429 people with chemical weapons on August 21 2013?

[carpnter]

Unfortunately, these are very hard decisions to make in reality. I go back and forth. We should not be the world police in my opinion. Nor should we try force our ideals on other countries and cultures.

On the other hand, I also understand we are a global society today more than ever. If Syria goes unchecked, then so does Iran, so does North Korea, Pakistan and so forth. And sooner or later the US will have to deal with a real threat from one of these countries because their power and influence and military will grow if unchecked.

As for me currently, I'm back, not forth. We have had too much war in recent memory. Unfortunately for the victims, I don't think the US should intervene in this situation.

I feel like we have a decent sized Syrian population in Jax. I know a bunch anyway. I'd be curious to hear a Syrian-American view on it. 

That would be interesting to know.  If you can ask anyone, please let us know their feelings.

I was driving up Beach Blvd yesterday evening and there was a decent sized group of Syrians outside the Salaam Club holding signs opposing US involvement in Syria.  Apparently there was a group downtown as well yesterday. 
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/syrians-jacksonville-rally-against-us-intervention/nZghY/