Zimmerman Found Not Guilty

[I-10east]

^^^Please tell me that's something from the Onion. SMH...

[Cheshire Cat]

The President speaks to the Zimmerman case. link below. 

From my view I think he is saying some of the same things I said earlier on a variety of threads which is that this case touched many deep and old hurts in the Black community.  I think that while this is absolutely true it is also important to realize that these comments are being spoken by a mixed race man, considered Black by most, who is  currently holding the highest office in the land and of the free world.  Old pains and hurts run deep and justifiably so but the realization that things are changing and will keep changing can be heard in the words of our youngest children and highest elected official.  While I listened to the words of the President I was also thinking that in spite of the fact that old racist behaviors still exist in this country they are no longer the overlying behavior or sentiment of the majority of it's citizens.  It they were, Obama would not be our President and be able to speak to this issue the way he has.  I don't think anyone should lose sight of that reality. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5AM2QBEBc&feature=share

http://globalgrind.com/news/kids-react-interracial-cheerios-commercial-video

[thelakelander]

Just wait till those who don't agree with what the president had to say, responds. I just may tune into FOX news tonight for entertainment purposes.

[Cheshire Cat]

The President speaks to the Zimmerman case. link below. 

From my view I think he is saying some of the same things I said earlier on a variety of threads which is that this case touched many deep and old hurts in the Black community.  I think that while this is absolutely true it is also important to realize that these comments are being spoken by the man holding the highest office in the land and of the free world.  Old pains and hurts run deep, justifiably so.  But the realization that things are changing and will keep changing can be heard in the words of our youngest children and highest elected official.  While I listened to the words of the President I was also thinking that in spite of the fact that old racist behaviors still exist in this country they are no longer the overlying behavior or sentiment of all of it's citizens.  It they were, Obama would not be our President and be able to speak to this issue the way he has.  I don't think anyone should lose site of that reality. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5AM2QBEBc&feature=share

meh.

I think these are issues you work through and still have to be addressed.  Im certain people were thinking similar strides had been made about anti semitism when Bleichroder and Bismark formed such a close affiliation in Germany (even their grandchildren ended up getting married) but that was over by 1929.

Well Stephen, working through is what all of these threads and discussions are about.  Why a comment to look at the positives while "working through" rates a "meh", I will never know.  Goodness gracious.  lol

[Cheshire Cat]

Just wait till those who don't agree with what the president had to say, responds. I just may tune into FOX news tonight for entertainment purposes.

Fox has not yet spoken to this but social media has already "lit up"!  I can feel the roller coaster beneath the entire country right now.

[Cheshire Cat]

The President speaks to the Zimmerman case. link below. 

From my view I think he is saying some of the same things I said earlier on a variety of threads which is that this case touched many deep and old hurts in the Black community.  I think that while this is absolutely true it is also important to realize that these comments are being spoken by the man holding the highest office in the land and of the free world.  Old pains and hurts run deep, justifiably so.  But the realization that things are changing and will keep changing can be heard in the words of our youngest children and highest elected official.  While I listened to the words of the President I was also thinking that in spite of the fact that old racist behaviors still exist in this country they are no longer the overlying behavior or sentiment of all of it's citizens.  It they were, Obama would not be our President and be able to speak to this issue the way he has.  I don't think anyone should lose site of that reality. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5AM2QBEBc&feature=share

meh.

I think these are issues you work through and still have to be addressed.  Im certain people were thinking similar strides had been made about anti semitism when Bleichroder and Bismark formed such a close affiliation in Germany (even their grandchildren ended up getting married) but that was over by 1929.

Well Stephen, working through is what all of these threads and discussions are about.  Why a comment to look at the positives while "working through" rates a "meh", I will never know.  Goodness gracious.  lol

because i think it needs pointing out that just because we elected a black president of the us, doesnt mean that racism is over.

Just like electing Hillary in 2 years isnt going to signal the end of sex discrimination, or workplace sexual harrassment.

Well goodness gracious, who is saying that?  I certainly am not and I think everyone understands the changes coming to our country will come gradually, but we are moving forward.  We can't lose sight of that fact.

[Cheshire Cat]

The President speaks to the Zimmerman case. link below. 

From my view I think he is saying some of the same things I said earlier on a variety of threads which is that this case touched many deep and old hurts in the Black community.  I think that while this is absolutely true it is also important to realize that these comments are being spoken by the man holding the highest office in the land and of the free world.  Old pains and hurts run deep, justifiably so.  But the realization that things are changing and will keep changing can be heard in the words of our youngest children and highest elected official.  While I listened to the words of the President I was also thinking that in spite of the fact that old racist behaviors still exist in this country they are no longer the overlying behavior or sentiment of all of it's citizens.  It they were, Obama would not be our President and be able to speak to this issue the way he has.  I don't think anyone should lose site of that reality. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5AM2QBEBc&feature=share

meh.

I think these are issues you work through and still have to be addressed.  Im certain people were thinking similar strides had been made about anti semitism when Bleichroder and Bismark formed such a close affiliation in Germany (even their grandchildren ended up getting married) but that was over by 1929.

Well Stephen, working through is what all of these threads and discussions are about.  Why a comment to look at the positives while "working through" rates a "meh", I will never know.  Goodness gracious.  lol

because i think it needs pointing out that just because we elected a black president of the us, doesnt mean that racism is over.

Just like electing Hillary in 2 years isnt going to signal the end of sex discrimination, or workplace sexual harrassment.

Well goodness gracious, who is saying that?  I certainly am not and I think everyone understands the changes coming to our country will come gradually, but we are moving forward.  We can't lose sight of that fact.  As far as other comments, I was speaking to the issue of race not sexual assaults. 

[Cheshire Cat]

^^^Please tell me that's something from the Onion. SMH...

Sorry, can't tell you that.  It appears to be all too true.

[Cheshire Cat]

^Indeed they might but we don't have to be first out of the gate with that discussion do we?  lol  I think we have enough to talk about just sticking to today's issues.

[I-10east]

^^^Whoa, such a dramatic response? I never said that I was pro-stand your ground, I don't know what you're trying to get at....

[JayBird]

South Carolina ... Speechless. No offense Diane but I had to actually go check because I thought this was creative cut and paste.

[Cheshire Cat]

Stephendare
Its not like white people were wandering through a meadow one day, thoughtfully turned to each other and softly whispered:  "Its time.".

Of course it isn't and I neither said or implied such.  So I will take the statement as an addition by you to the commentary.    In that spirit there was a time back in the sixties when a bunch of White people looked at each other and said "it's time" and did all they could to break the back of racism.  I know because I was one of them.  It's going to take much more time than I have on this earth to see true racial equality in this country and around the world but it is coming of it's own accord as the country moves from majority White to a majority minority.  We are not far off from the day that will happen.  Until it does however there will be discussion to be had and work to be done. To do so wisely and have our efforts matter we must look at both the negatives and positives, acknowledge them and move forward with as much understanding and balance that we can muster. 

[NotNow]

Come on.  To attach any meaning at all to this article other than how stupid the defendant is and how much lawyers like to litigate everything is an intellectual mistake. 

This suspect is either wasting everyone's time or (like many people expressing opinions these days) he has absolutely no idea what the "stand your ground" defense is.

ANYBODY can claim ANYTHING.   This says NOTHING about the "stand your ground" defense.  Just like the fact that the Zimmerman case (remember that?) says NOTHING about SYG either.

[Cheshire Cat]

Come on.  To attach any meaning at all to this article other than how stupid the defendant is and how much lawyers like to litigate everything is an intellectual mistake. 

This suspect is either wasting everyone's time or (like many people expressing opinions these days) he has absolutely no idea what the "stand your ground" defense is.

ANYBODY can claim ANYTHING.   This says NOTHING about the "stand your ground" defense.  Just like the fact that the Zimmerman case (remember that?) says NOTHING about SYG either.

I for one completely get that Not Now.  That is the reason I posted the piece.    The whole idea that some joker has a mindset that works this way is breathtakingly stupid yet people will always use anything and everything at their disposal to turn a law in the favor. 

[JayBird]

Not now, I feel it does apply. Because of the way the law is written, the fact that they can even attempt to use that defense is a waste of money, time and resources. I don't know how SC law is written, but obviously it shows the need for a change. Also, keep in mind that Zimmerman didn't use the SYG, not that it didn't/wouldn't apply. It also makes me question if there is enough precedent to avoid this happening in Florida. Or is it just a matter of time until this nonsense adds to Florida's wonderful legal record.