ESPN Reports Tebow to Jags

[Elwood]

EvenIfHesReleased.com

[Ocklawaha]

This is getting a little silly. I never claimed that I'm a big Tebow fan. But you guys just proved my point a few posts back.

Posted by: Wacca Pilatka
« on: Today at 01:30:42 PM » Insert Quote

The national media covers Tebow a lot, and often talks him up because he drives TV ratings,

Ratings are based on PEOPLE. People = seats sold.

[RockStar]

At what point can we just kill this thread?

Tired of seeing the subject line. It's over.

[duvaldude08]

I asked that same question 30 responses ago. I was told it wont be killed until response 3,465

[duvaldude08]

This is getting a little silly. I never claimed that I'm a big Tebow fan. But you guys just proved my point a few posts back.

Posted by: Wacca Pilatka
« on: Today at 01:30:42 PM » Insert Quote

The national media covers Tebow a lot, and often talks him up because he drives TV ratings,

Ratings are based on PEOPLE. People = seats sold.

temporary seats sold does not=long term answer. That's part of the problem. Weaver tried temporary solutions (aka tarps) that didn't work. and Tebow is a gimmick. Business doest succeed off of gimmicks. And aprrently weve been doing fine the past three seasons and this upcoming season without tebow. And the Jets game wasnt exactly "sold out" last season when "tebow as coming to town."

[I-10east]

Weaver tried temporary solutions (aka tarps) that didn't work. and Tebow is a gimmick.

Don't blame Weaver, blame whoever catered the stadium solely for the FL/GA game. Contrary to popular belief, letting the games blackout because we can't fill up a 80K(or whatever) untarped stadium in one of the smallest markets isn't a good thing either. IMO given the circumstances Weaver actually did the right thing.

[buckethead]

Let me preface by saying that this is not confirmed, BUT.... Sources close the the Jags have reported that talks are VERY close to being finalized which would bring in the athlete known as Tebow. I won't say in what capacity, and my source wishes to remain anonymous. I will say this: there may be those in the upper ranks that believe Tebow has the potential to become not only the best Quarteback in franchise history, but also in the history of the game.

Serious business.

I believe.

What do you believe?

[copperfiend]

Weaver tried temporary solutions (aka tarps) that didn't work. and Tebow is a gimmick.

Don't blame Weaver, blame whoever catered the stadium solely for the FL/GA game. Contrary to popular belief, letting the games blackout because we can't fill up a 80K(or whatever) untarped stadium in one of the smallest markets isn't a good thing either. IMO given the circumstances Weaver actually did the right thing.

I don't think we get the team without the 70k+ seat stadium.

[FSBA]

From what I've read the NFL would've been fine with a stadium with the tarped capacity. It was the threat of the FL/GA game and the city overestimating long term demand (isn't that a trend?) that caused the stadium to go over 70,000.

[Wacca Pilatka]

This is getting a little silly. I never claimed that I'm a big Tebow fan. But you guys just proved my point a few posts back.

Posted by: Wacca Pilatka
« on: Today at 01:30:42 PM » Insert Quote

The national media covers Tebow a lot, and often talks him up because he drives TV ratings,

Ratings are based on PEOPLE. People = seats sold.

Not if they're PEOPLE who are incredibly fickle and turn on the hometown team at the slightest provocation - as covered at great length beyond the first sentence in my previous posts.  They're not the kind of people you want to work to attract to the stadium.

Once again - THE ONLY SEATS GOING UNSOLD ARE CLUB SEATS.  Fair-weathers are not going to buy the club seats.  If they do, they won't stay for long when they realize Tebow's a dud.  He's a stopgap solution to a problem whose existence is grossly overinflated, and his domineering fan base doesn't deserve appeasement.

Incidentally, I have the utmost respect for you but don't particularly like your destroying the context of the partial sentence quote, which when read in full states that the national media uses Tebow as a tool to ridicule Jacksonville.

[Tacachale]

Weaver tried temporary solutions (aka tarps) that didn't work. and Tebow is a gimmick.

Don't blame Weaver, blame whoever catered the stadium solely for the FL/GA game. Contrary to popular belief, letting the games blackout because we can't fill up a 80K(or whatever) untarped stadium in one of the smallest markets isn't a good thing either. IMO given the circumstances Weaver actually did the right thing.

I don't think we get the team without the 70k+ seat stadium.

It would have been even harder than it was, plus we'd be in danger of losing the Florida-Georgia game as well. The real question is, why the hell does the NFL arbitrarily tie blackouts to percentage of seats sold, rather than, you know, a minimum number? That's the real problem.

[I-10east]

I don't think we get the team without the 70k+ seat stadium.

I totally disagree. All of that "70K+ to attract the Super Bowl" crap was just a cherry on the cake, nothing else. It's not like we would have been requesting a 50K stadium which is under the NFL capacity, and I surely never heard a 'special' Jax rule from the commish saying we had to get a 70K+ stadium. 60K to 65K would've been fine. Now would the FL/GA game be threatened in Jax with a 60K some odd seat stadium? Yes, not getting the NFL team.

[Tacachale]

The commitment to build (and fill) a large stadium with club seats was one of Jax's major selling points over the other bids. We were easily the underdog in the race from the start.

[ben says]

so f'in sick of seeing this thread

[I-10east]

Taca, to me 65K stadium isn't exactly 'small'. The word 'large' is a lil subjective. As long as we met the NFL's capacity requirement, along with other NFL hopeful cities' follies, I couldn't see in any way the NFL denying Jax a NFL team. The only reason why that stadium was so large was because of the FL/GA game; It dictated the entire package. I get that we were the underdog, but I think that sometimes we over-downplay ourselves with this "Little market Jax needed this one of a kind unpresented package to the NFL" when I don't think that was the case.