Time for JTA Skyway to Brooklyn?

Started by Cheshire Cat, April 22, 2013, 04:59:49 PM

Ocklawaha

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 23, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
^YES!  Did you hear me?  Yes!  :)

LOL! One more consideration to the San Marco/Atlantic, Skyway/Rail/Bus station. The Hospital District on the Southbank holds about 11,000 employees (yeah, I actually checked with each company) west of the FREEway, not to mention the myriad employees that work east of the Acosta Expressway. EVERY SINGE COMMUTER FROM SOUTH OF ATLANTIC, ON THE RAIL, THAT WORKS DOWNTOWN, OR THE SOUTHBANK, WILL DETRAIN IN SAN MARCO! The Skyway or BRT will do the rest. Employees destined to the northside, or westside will use the JACKSONVILLE TERMINAL STATION (as God intended).

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: Ocklawaha on April 23, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 23, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
^YES!  Did you hear me?  Yes!  :)

LOL! One more consideration to the San Marco/Atlantic, Skyway/Rail/Bus station. The Hospital District on the Southbank holds about 11,000 employees (yeah, I actually checked with each company) west of the FREEway, not to mention the myriad employees that work east of the Acosta Expressway. EVERY SINGE COMMUTER FROM SOUTH OF ATLANTIC, ON THE RAIL, THAT WORKS DOWNTOWN, OR THE SOUTHBANK, WILL DETRAIN IN SAN MARCO! The Skyway or BRT will do the rest. Employees destined to the northside, or westside will use the JACKSONVILLE TERMINAL STATION (as God intended).

8) So obvious...wish it wouldn't take decades to come to fruition.

urbaknight

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 22, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on April 22, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
The cost of the streetcar line connecting downtown to Riverside is supposed to be funded 100% by the mobility fee.  Unfortunately, when council refuses to collect a fee for new development, projects like this continue to get pushed into the distant future.
Reading this and realizing how true it is makes me just plain angry at the leadership that allows this to continue in order to preserve political favor and standing with certain entities in this city over what is good for the entire community.  It's flat wrong no matter how cleverly it is spun to appear otherwise.


Is there a way the citizens of Jacksonville can sue city council in Federal court to overturn their asinine mobility fee moratorium? After exposing the facts, the Feds would have to do something, right?

thelakelander

I would think that the city would have had to break the law. I'm not sure any law was actually broken.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

Quote from: urbaknight on April 24, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
Is there a way the citizens of Jacksonville can sue city council in Federal court to overturn their asinine mobility fee moratorium? After exposing the facts, the Feds would have to do something, right?

good luck with that...no federal law was broken.

and as for state law, the only thing it says is local governments are responsible for adequately funding public facilities....they can pass that cost on to new development (if rationally connected to its impacts) if they so choose.

urbaknight

I'm not a fan of the Feds, but when it comes to Florida and its state and local governments, I'll side with the Feds every time. Hey let's petition the Fed to take over Florida. And jail our current leadership.

As far as federal laws being broken, the city is in constant violation of ADA laws.

Cheshire Cat

The only way would be to have another entity or council member offer another new bill to repeal this one. 
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

urbaknight

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 24, 2013, 04:59:20 PM
The only way would be to have another entity or council member offer another new bill to repeal this one.

Someone on council can do that?! Awsome!

Cheshire Cat

#53
Yes, but finding one willing may be a chore unless some very good points can be revisited in a way that gets public attention, like this bill impinging on funds to grow transportation which will again become a focal point to moving Jacksonville forward. Perhaps this could happen six month's to a year down the road with a new bill to take effect prior to the 18 month cut off on this one, just to get ahead of any kind of political plays like we saw this time around.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!