Jacksonville may call for offshore drilling

Started by thelakelander, July 22, 2008, 01:43:59 AM

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whitey

#15
July 23, 2008, 08:30:06 AM
Quote from: gatorback on July 22, 2008, 06:50:41 PM
I think T-Bone has the right answer.  We can't drills our way out of this mess.

Just remember T Boone Pickens owns A LOT of stock in natural gas and wind turbine companies.  He isn't promoting his plan because he's a just nice guy.

Did anyone else know that Honda makes a natural gas powered Civic and has for years?

gatorback

#16
July 23, 2008, 08:40:36 AM
OK.  So if he wasn't who he is it'd be alright to want to decrease our dependency on foreign oil?
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

Doctor_K

#17
July 23, 2008, 08:43:16 AM
Oh sure!  The Civic GX NGV.  There are something like 26 on the road across the country.  LoL.  I jest, but here:

From the Honda website:
http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/refueling.aspx
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Refueling the GX may take up to 16 hours if the tank is virtually empty.
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A full tank of gas supplies the GX with a driving range of approximately 220â€"250 miles
Apparently, if your home is powered/supplied with Natural Gas, you can have this handy dandy refueling thingy installed in your garage and refuel your Civic NGV nightly.  The EPA mileage equivalents are 24 mpg city/36 mpg highway.  Given that info, the equation breaks down to the equivalent of somewhere between a 10- and 7- gallon fuel tank.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

BridgeTroll

#18
July 23, 2008, 08:47:15 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 23, 2008, 08:30:06 AM
Quote from: gatorback on July 22, 2008, 06:50:41 PM
I think T-Bone has the right answer.  We can't drills our way out of this mess.

Just remember T Boone Pickens owns A LOT of stock in natural gas and wind turbine companies.  He isn't promoting his plan because he's a just nice guy.

Did anyone else know that Honda makes a natural gas powered Civic and has for years?
Nobody does it because "they are a nice guy".  Neither does Honda... They do it because they can make a profit from it.  He wants to keep the profits in the U.S. instead of sending dollars to the middle east.  I agree whole heartedly.  His plan is to develop and exploit American energy sources... including oil...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

gatorback

#19
July 23, 2008, 09:17:49 AM
Some people do the right things.  Here's a list.  Warren Buffet just gave away BILLIONS as did Bill and Melinda Gates, let's see Jimmy Carter comes to mind, then of course Gandhi and Mother Teresa.

I know in this world it's hard to figure out that some people are looking to do good.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

BridgeTroll

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July 23, 2008, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: gatorback on July 23, 2008, 09:17:49 AM
Some people do the right things.  Here's a list.  Warren Buffet just gave away BILLIONS as did Bill and Melinda Gates, let's see Jimmy Carter comes to mind, then of course Gandhi and Mother Teresa.

I know in this world it's hard to figure out that some people are looking to do good.

But that was not the point... of course people do the right thing.  Whitey appeared to object to T Boones motivations while endorsing Hondas... I am simply saying the motivation is the same...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

RiversideGator

#21
July 23, 2008, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 23, 2008, 08:30:06 AM
Quote from: gatorback on July 22, 2008, 06:50:41 PM
I think T-Bone has the right answer.  We can't drills our way out of this mess.

Just remember T Boone Pickens owns A LOT of stock in natural gas and wind turbine companies.  He isn't promoting his plan because he's a just nice guy.

This may be true but Pickens is 80 years old and already has $2 billion in the bank.  Perhaps he really is concerned about the future.  He is highly qualified in this respect.  Perhaps he has invested in companies which he sees as providing for the future energy needs of America.

Captain Zissou

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July 23, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
I think Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are great people, but the percentages of their total net worth that they are giving away is far less than many people in our community.  Just because they get on the news doesn't make them better people.  It's absurd that you would put them in the same sentence as Mother Teresa.

gatorback

#23
July 23, 2008, 11:59:05 AM
If it wasn't for people like Bill, Warren and everybody like you and me that give, the work of Mother Teresa wouldn't be possible.  After all, we're all called to give of our time and treasures.  The responsible giving away of billions of dollars is hard work that takes a lot of time.   :)
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586
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