Jax has an emptiness to its core

[David]

The natives have heard it all before TD*.

Over the years many ideas on how to improve downtown and the core have been hashed out on here. Point counter point. Build rail. Extend the skyway. We need a new grocery store. etc etc.

There is definitely more of a pulse to downtown than there was a decade ago, more events, more venues than I recall growing up here in the late 90's-2000's.

What i'm saying is, if you think it's bad now. You should've been here 11+ years ago.  I was able to roam the streets at night snapping photographs without coming across another soul. Aside from maybe a random greyhound passenger or a club rat wandering over from DV8/618/Milkdome.

There does to seem to be an upswing lately downtown but it needs a boom to jump start that urban vibrancy we dream about on here.

[TD*]

Yea. I hope when I get my first job I can work on rail projects and bring it to places like jax that sorely need it. Hell I'm already advocating for a streetcar or light rail for Tally.

[I-10east]

The SJTC may not be dead on a Saturday afternoon, but it sure makes we wish I was.

Why? Stuff like that drive me crazy. What's the matter with both places prospering? The old balance scale effect 'this place vs that place' argument. Yup, the SJTC supposedly 'stole' all of the old foot traffic from DT, no doubt....

[tufsu1]

Jax is hell.. highways everywhere.. looks like trash.

comments like this reflect poorly on you...and sadly, as an FSU DURP alum, somewhat on the grad program you're in as well

[peestandingup]

I'm kinda trolling now cause I got ticked off.. That aside Jax needs a downtown improvement plan and to put it into action everything in Ajax happens away from the core.

Are you sure you're not just trolling in general? I've seen you around the way on other city forums & its a constant ra ra fest for Tallahassee, while dogging every place thats not Tallahassee.

I'm happy to post links.

[downtownjag]

I'm kinda trolling now cause I got ticked off.. That aside Jax needs a downtown improvement plan and to put it into action everything in Ajax happens away from the core.

Are you sure you're not just trolling in general? I've seen you around the way on other city forums & its a constant ra ra fest for Tallahassee, while dogging every place thats not Tallahassee.

I'm happy to post links.

LOL

[Ocklawaha]

Even St Johns County is stealing all the hype lately because rich white folks got the memo that if they all cluster together, they can make the schools all white, and rich, and therefore a great district.

SO people are flocking to Race Track Road for durbin crossing, and Nocatee parkway for those developments
...i just wanted to say how i felt..

I've got to jump in here as a resident of St. Johns and the 'Rich White Folks' hood called World Golf Village. On my street in WGV (which is only 1 block long) we have 12 occupied houses. Out of our 12 occupied houses we have a couple from Argentina, Bolivia, Puerto Rico and my house which is 1/2 Colombian (my wife and children) both of us are dual nationals, and another mixed household 1/2 Cuban (wife) and 1/2 Bostonian (which is the real foreigner, LOL!). So that's 5 out of 12. The street behind us? While I don't know the mix, I do know of a family from Colombia, one from Peru and a mixed or Black couple. The entry street has no less then 3 Black families and no more then 10-12 homes. We are quite the melting pot, not the lily white bunch you imagined. Sometime when your over this way, perhaps you can stop in and we'll pop some cold ones...(The guy from Boston has a freaking brewery in his garage, it's his hobby, another does slow smoked BBQ... the 18-24 hour type!). Consider yourself invited.

OCKLAWAHA

[Noone]

Jax  has so much potential with everything, but the downtown is SHIT. The river is nice and so are the bridges, but the fact that almost nothing is going on sucks..

Next time your in town TD and if you want to see Downtown from the water in a kayak just let me know.

[PeeJayEss]

The SJTC may not be dead on a Saturday afternoon, but it sure makes we wish I was.

Why? Stuff like that drive me crazy. What's the matter with both places prospering? The old balance scale effect 'this place vs that place' argument. Yup, the SJTC supposedly 'stole' all of the old foot traffic from DT, no doubt....

You misinterpret, but I figure that was intentional as the only way to argue this particular point. Traffic at the SJTC makes me wish I was dead, going to Costco at SJTC on Saturday afternoon makes me wish I was dead. I don't wish I was dead because its vibrant and DT is not. In fact, I don't actually even wish I was dead, that was hyperbole, and DT was probably more vibrant this weekend than SJTC. Maybe not more crowded, but more vibrant, which is why I questioned TD's argument altogether. Either he wasn't in DT Jax this weekend and is simply trolling, he was in DT Jax this weekend and saw the action but ignored it and is trolling, or his idea of vibrancy is white people driving automobiles, in which case he is trolling life. In my first post, I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was the last option. Now I'm not so sure.

And if you think what's happening at Nocatee is flocking, well you've never seen geese.

I've got to jump in here as a resident of St. Johns and the 'Rich White Folks' hood called World Golf Village. On my street in WGV (which is only 1 block long) we have 12 occupied houses. Out of our 12 occupied houses we have a couple from Argentina, Bolivia, Puerto Rico and my house which is 1/2 Colombian (my wife and children) both of us are dual nationals, and another mixed household 1/2 Cuban (wife) and 1/2 Bostonian (which is the real foreigner, LOL!). So that's 5 out of 12. The street behind us? While I don't know the mix, I do know of a family from Colombia, one from Peru and a mixed or Black couple. The entry street has no less then 3 Black families and no more then 10-12 homes. We are quite the melting pot, not the lily white bunch you imagined. Sometime when your over this way, perhaps you can stop in and we'll pop some cold ones...(The guy from Boston has a freaking brewery in his garage, it's his hobby, another does slow smoked BBQ... the 18-24 hour type!). Consider yourself invited.

OCKLAWAHA

Sounds dangerous, Ock. You better get out of there. 

[I-10east]

^^^My bad PJE, yeah I misunderstood you. I was thinking that you were basically saying "The STJC might not be dead on Saturday afternoon, but I wish it was". I gotta start reading more thoroughly.

[Coolyfett]

Its classic White Flight, even if other minorities are doing the same, moving away to the safe areas far away from the "scary" downtown schools with all the poor "lowlifes"..

Its pathetic kind of. Everyone has to pay for the sprawl going on across the country.. it costs a lot more to extend services out to st johns than it would be to live in a dense area..

Who pays for it? The taxpayer.. its the classic american ideal... get your immediate needs met, and worry about who pays for it later.. (same thing with credit cards).


Technically since its in another county, Duval wont be paying for some of the issues, but i just dont like the idea...

Ima chim in right quick on this... I dont know what the hell nocatee and Dubin Cross is. I see it mentioned all the time on City Data as the heavenly version of Jacksonville Metro..honest im not feeling that concept, if it removes people away from the Jacksonville-Duval side of the metro. If that is the attitude people are having that is a really scary thing. Time will tell though, but I am sick of reading and hearing about those two places as if they are the only places to live on the First Coast. Thats all I got on that topic.

[Coolyfett]

Jax is hell.. highways everywhere.. looks like trash.

comments like this reflect poorly on you...and sadly, as an FSU DURP alum, somewhat on the grad program you're in as well

Stop being a snob.

[TD*]

Haha, Seriously guys, I tried to kick up some dust in my posts, not everything was politically correct, or dead on, but the general consensus is.... I want Rail in Jax.. And I don't approve of the rapid movement to North St Johns County.

With that being said, sorry if i offended anyone.

[TD*]

Wow Ock and some of the others, i really appreciate the invitation, and sorry I painted the wrong picture and typecast like crazy.....

I really do think Jax has some nice areas, and good people. Everything is not like i made it out to be and I would love to meet some of you.

I just become frustrated with the political landscape and the slow movement on the issues, and that comes out in frustration and me writing posts that arent 100% accurate.

Just wanna say, I love you metro Jaxxers.

[TD*]

Ock an Noone Thanks for the invite!