Southern Rock

Started by sheclown, October 26, 2012, 03:55:27 PM

sheclown

and speaking of Mae Axton, her son (who grew up in Jacksonville) wrote this song which Three Dog Night made famous.

Hoyt Axton, "Joy to the World"



Tacachale

Quote from: Adam W on March 17, 2013, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: sheclown on March 17, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
For me the larger issue is that J'ville seems oblivious to its glory -- be it any of the Van Zants, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins, Dave Hlubek, Tim Lindsey...you name it.  Not to mention the other genres of musical greatness.

Where's the SOUTHERN ROCK HALL OF FAME?  Where's the recognition that greatest comes from this city?

No where.

Well, we certainly don't have a Southern Rock Hall of Fame. But I wouldn't think the city is oblivious to it's history in this regard - or at least I disagree with you there. I think the city is mired in its past in that regard. You can't escape Lynyrd Skynyrd in Jacksonville. Second-rate bands like Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are lionized by locals.

Obviously it all comes down to personal opinion (as far as whether or not bands like Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are any good). But Jax is a city that is aware of it's history, as far as Southern rock goes. So much so that other rock music (and other types of music) created in the city tends to get overlooked as a result.

Lots of great local bands existed in Jax during the 80s and 90s. But they struggled to get coverage in the Florida Times-Union and on local TV channels - but whatever abomination that was masquerading as the latest incarnation of Lynyrd Skynyrd would get plenty of column inches for it's latest abortion of a record (Lynyrd Skynyrd 1991, The Last Rebel, etc).

I'm not saying we shouldn't embrace our Southern Rock past - we most certainly should. But I think we do already. I think Jax is a proud Southern Rock town.

Yeah, I can see that. I certainly wish we'd celebrate other local music as much as we do Southern Rock bands from the 60s and 70s.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Adam W

#257
Quote from: stephendare on March 17, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: Adam W on March 17, 2013, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: stephendare on March 17, 2013, 11:09:47 AM
I mean honestly.  Do you think that Elvis wasnt really a rock n roll musician because his first platinum hit was written by Jville 'professional' songwriter, Mae Axton?

Im pretty sure he didnt write 'amazing grace' either. ;)

Its just absurd.

There's a difference, though, between rock'n'roll singers/performers (especially those from that time period) and rock bands (hard rock bands, even) from the post-Beatles era.

Rock bands work on the principle that they write and perform their own music. That's why Aerosmith got kind of lame when they started recording Diane Warren hits.

It's all fine from a music standpoint, sure. If you like it, fine. But taking it back to the quote that was posted from Gary Rossington - he made a big deal about bands writing their own music. So clearly it was an issue for the people a guy who were was one of their peers.
;)

Yes, Rossington thought it was important to write your own songs. But he implies that the other guys in Lynyrd Skynyrd thought so too.

It's a big deal for rock bands to write their own music. I know you fancy yourself a bit of a renaissance man - a restaurateur/chef trained in 23 different ethnic cuisines, small business owner, author, etc. Maybe you've been a rock musician, too. But as a (former, I suppose) amateur rock musician, I think I know a thing or two about this.

I admit it's stupid - and I don't even necessarily agree with it. But it's the way it is. Hiring a guy who isn't in your band to write hit songs for you (a guy whose job it is to write hit songs for other people) is lame.


sheclown

Quote from: Tacachale on March 17, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: Adam W on March 17, 2013, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: sheclown on March 17, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
For me the larger issue is that J'ville seems oblivious to its glory -- be it any of the Van Zants, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins, Dave Hlubek, Tim Lindsey...you name it.  Not to mention the other genres of musical greatness.

Where's the SOUTHERN ROCK HALL OF FAME?  Where's the recognition that greatest comes from this city?

No where.

Well, we certainly don't have a Southern Rock Hall of Fame. But I wouldn't think the city is oblivious to it's history in this regard - or at least I disagree with you there. I think the city is mired in its past in that regard. You can't escape Lynyrd Skynyrd in Jacksonville. Second-rate bands like Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are lionized by locals.

Obviously it all comes down to personal opinion (as far as whether or not bands like Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are any good). But Jax is a city that is aware of it's history, as far as Southern rock goes. So much so that other rock music (and other types of music) created in the city tends to get overlooked as a result.

Lots of great local bands existed in Jax during the 80s and 90s. But they struggled to get coverage in the Florida Times-Union and on local TV channels - but whatever abomination that was masquerading as the latest incarnation of Lynyrd Skynyrd would get plenty of column inches for it's latest abortion of a record (Lynyrd Skynyrd 1991, The Last Rebel, etc).

I'm not saying we shouldn't embrace our Southern Rock past - we most certainly should. But I think we do already. I think Jax is a proud Southern Rock town.

Yeah, I can see that. I certainly wish we'd celebrate other local music as much as we do Southern Rock bands from the 60s and 70s.

Start a thread :)

sheclown

a great piece on growing up the son of a Skynyrd fan:

"Every mother’s son: Why Lynyrd Skynyrd has survived"
by Jason Heller August 21, 2012

"I realized something that night, listening to Skynyrd with Gared. In my attempt to distance myself from my shitty childhood, I’d overshot the mark. I was missing out on some great music. But more than that, I was missing out on part of my own life, and on a band whose music still echoes inside my bones."

more:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/every-mothers-son-why-lynyrd-skynyrd-has-survived,84042/

http://www.youtube.com/v/mWBoeY0AAec?version=3&hl=en_US


sheclown

recorded in downtown Jacksonville, when they were the One Percent:

"Michelle"


(thanks Tommy)


sheclown

Derek Trucks on Duane Allman:

“It was his band and in a very real way it still is his band,” says Derek Trucks, the gifted young guitarist who is celebrating his tenth year with the ABB. “With the guys that knew him who are still in the band you can see Duane’s presence and shadow moving at times. They’re very conscious of his original intention. It still guides the band in a way. He was such a powerful musical persona, such a powerful personality. Some of the ground rules he laid down 40 years ago are still driving the ship. That’s a serious presence.”




Ocklawaha

Quote from: Adam W on March 17, 2013, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: sheclown on March 17, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
For me the larger issue is that J'ville seems oblivious to its glory -- be it any of the Van Zants, Gary Rossington, Allen Collins, Dave Hlubek, Tim Lindsey...you name it.  Not to mention the other genres of musical greatness.

Where's the SOUTHERN ROCK HALL OF FAME?  Where's the recognition that greatest comes from this city?

No where.

Well, we certainly don't have a Southern Rock Hall of Fame. But I wouldn't think the city is oblivious to it's history in this regard - or at least I disagree with you there. I think the city is mired in its past in that regard. You can't escape Lynyrd Skynyrd in Jacksonville. Second-rate bands like Molly Hatchet and Blackfoot are lionized by locals.

QuoteWhen Frank O. Gehry began designing EMP, he was inspired to create a structure that evoked the rock ‘n’ roll experience without being too literal. He purchased several electric guitars, sliced them into pieces, and used them as building blocks for an early model design.

A fusion of textures and myriad colors, EMP’s exterior conveys all the energy and fluidity of music. Three-thousand panels, made up of 21 thousand individually cut and shaped stainless steel and painted aluminum shingles, encase the outside of the building. Their individual finishes respond to different light conditions and appear to change when viewed from different angles, reminding audiences that music and culture is constantly evolving.

ARCHITECT
Frank O. Gehry and Associates, Santa Monica, California

EMP is the first commercial project Gehry has designed in the Pacific Northwest.

ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT
LMN Architects, Seattle

BUILDING STATISTICS
140,000 total square feet; footprint, 35,000 square feet
Highest point: 85 feet at Sky Church
Widest point: 210 feet at West Harrison Street
Length: 360 feet at 5th Avenue N

Nothing wrong with Molly Hatchet or Blackfoot being lionized. Seattle's EPM Museum highlights local artists, rock music and Seattle's own Grunge/Indie Rock hybrid music style.

The way I see it Jacksonville needs to take a lesson from my generation and live up to our higher calling and stop beating ourselves up. Might I suggest some lyrics to lift us and bond us all to creating the greatest music museum in the world.

WHO ARE THESE JAXSONS?

"We are stardust.
We are golden.
And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden."
JONI MITCHELL


IF WE HAVE FAILED IN PAST EFFORTS TO ACHIEVE A WORLD CLASS DESTINATION:

"It's never too late to start all over again
To love the people you caused the pain
And help them learn your name
Oh, no, not too late
It's never too late to start all over again"
STEPPENWOLF


SEATTLE, MEMPHIS, DEEP DEUCE, DEEP ELLUM, NEW ORLEANS, SAN FRANCISCO, WHY NOT JACKSONVILLE'S OWN UNIQUE SOUND?

"Oh, there’s one thing that I’m sure,
It’s so proud and it’s so pure.

And it comes from deep within,
It’s got no hair it’s got no skin.

As we travel far and near,
We bring the world for you to hear.

And the message that we bring,
Is the light in the words we sing.

And no matter how bad you feel,
We got something, they can’t steal.

No they can’t, no they can’t, no they can’t,
Take away our music, no.

No they can’t, no they can’t, no they can’t,
Take away our music."
ERIC BURDON & WAR

Speaking of STEPPENWOLF, Ever read the novel?  We seem to be the 'Harry Haller,' of cities. Jacksonville reminds me of of the "real" book-in-the-book, Harry Haller's Records (For Madmen Only).  The "Treatise on the Steppenwolf" is a booklet given to Harry Haller which describes himself.  It is a literary mirror and, from the outset, describes what Harry had not learned, namely "to find contentment in himself and his own life."

sheclown

Thats it Ock!!

Thanks for sharing!

sheclown

Just cause it is funny in a weird sorta way.


In his autobiography, Gregg Allman tells us that he really dislikes the way Cher sings.  He stated that her speaking voice is the sexiest thing, but her singing is affected, phony. 

Apparently, it was a source of conflict with them.  Cher was doing quite well with her singing voice at that time.

He talks about a European concert that he did with her.  The audience was quite something to see.  Blue jeans and tuxedos.  No question who was present to hear who.


sheclown

QuoteGregg Allman Biopic Planned by 'CBGB' Filmmakers
Rocker sold rights to his memoir 'My Cross to Bear'

Gregg Allman has sold the rights to his memoir My Cross to Bear for a biopic by the filmmakers behind the forthcoming rock & roll movie CBGB.

Randall Miller and Jody Savin plan to work directly with Allman and his manager, Michael Lehman, on a movie adaptation of the singer's life, and Allman and Lehman will be executive producers on the project, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Allman Brothers Finish March Run at the Beacon Minus Gregg but in High Gear

Miller and Savin plan to explore two major aspects of Allman's life: his rise to stardom with the Allman Brothers Band as a young man, and a look at an older, more experienced Allman at age 64. "We knew it was a great story but didn't know how great it was until we read the book," Miller said. "That journey and coming out the other side is not the normal falling-into-hell story that rock & roll often is."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/gregg-allman-biopic-planned-by-cbgb-filmmakers-20130410#ixzz2Q9iArWkw
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

sheclown

#267
Benefit concert at the landing today for Danny Joe Brown's daughter. 

Mavericks. 


QuoteDanny Joe Brown, (August 24, 1951 â€" March 10, 2005)[1] was the original lead singer of the Southern rock group Molly Hatchet, and co-writer of the band's biggest hits from the late 1970s.

He was born in Jacksonville, Florida in 1951 and graduated from Terry Parker High School in 1969.[2] Shortly after graduating, he enlisted in the U.S. Coast Guard and was stationed in New York for two years.[2] Once he left the Coast Guard, Brown's focus turned solely to music and he joined Molly Hatchet in 1974.

He is best known for writing and singing on such songs as "Flirtin' with Disaster" and "Whiskey Man." He was also the vocalist on "Dreams I'll Never See," a faster-tempoed cover of the Allman Brothers song. The band's sound was immediately recognizable by Brown's distinct voice: a deep, raspy, throaty growl.[2]

Brown left Molly Hatchet in 1980 because of chronic diabetes and pancreatic problems, but soon started his own band, The Danny Joe Brown Band, which released a single studio album in 1981.[3] He later rejoined Molly Hatchet in 1982, only to leave again in 1995 after suffering a stroke. He died at his mother's home in Davie, Florida in March, 2005, at the age of 53. His obituary attributed his death to renal failure, a complication of the diabetes he had since age 19.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Joe_Brown




http://ashleybrownfoundation.org/

sheclown


Cheshire Cat

Gloria and all the music fans out there.  Check this out.  The fellow will be presenting at One Spark.

http://www.beonespark.com/discover/creator_projects/635
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!