Councilman Redman wants Metro Park concerts stopped

[Cheshire Cat]

I feel compelled to share that when I read this the first time I found myself literally laughing out loud at this latest proposed legislation pushed by Don Redman.  Seriously,  does the man live on this planet in this city or in some altered universe of his own making?  What I wonder does he suppose the multi-million dollar venue was built for.  Seriously LMAO!

http://www.causes.com/causes/810291-no-more-concerts-at-met-park-please-don-t-ignore/about

[thelakelander]

LMAO! It's a little early for April Fools.  Is this for real?  Do you know what the bill number is?

[civil42806]

I'd like to know the bill # also.  Find it a little fishy, not sure how legit that website is, the bill number would confirm if its true or not.

[Noone]

Well now we know that they are not moving the tables and chairs from Hemming Plaza to Metro Park.

[Cheshire Cat]

Don't know the bill number or about the link site.  Got this info from a former reporter for Folio who is usually correct about these things.  Didn't see it until tonight after City Hall closed.  Will try to get some verification tomorrow.  Somehow, I can see him doing something like this.  lol

[Charles Hunter]

Bill # 2013 - 8
http://cityclts.coj.net/coj/Council/JANUARY-8-2013-SUMMARY.pdf
scroll down until you get to it

wacka doo

[civil42806]

Bill # 2013 - 8
http://cityclts.coj.net/coj/Council/JANUARY-8-2013-SUMMARY.pdf
scroll down until you get to it

wacka doo

Thanks Charles thats just crazy talk

[peestandingup]

Lol, what does this pant load have against parks? Make them as dead as possible?? Cause those concerts are about the only thing going for Met Park these days. Go on any random day & its as dead as a doornail. Just a random park in a sea of nothingness because of the failed policies & lack of vision of this town's leaders.

He's seriously one of the most clueless, not to mention just all out dumbest, local politician I've ever heard of.

[dougskiles]

Anyone see the bill just before the Metro Park bill?  Off the subject, but also interesting (sponsored by CM Brown and clearly aimed at the Supervisor of Elections project):

Bill Summary: The bill amends Ordinance Code Chapter 122 â€" Public Property â€" by adding a new section which would prohibit the construction of new public buildings for purposes for which already existing vacant public buildings are suitable. “Suitability” is to be determined based on consideration of factors such as size, scale and location of existing buildings in relation to the proposed uses, and on the estimated costs to make such existing buildings and appurtenant uses (parking lots, additional structures, recreational areas, signage, etc.) appropriate for the proposed use. The cities of Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, Jacksonville Beach and the Town of Baldwin are excluded from the applicability of this ordinance.
Background Information: The bill’s sponsor believes that existing vacant publicly owned buildings are a valuable but underused asset and are not being given sufficient consideration for adaptation and re-use prior to the decision to construct new buildings.

[thelakelander]

I actually like CM Brown's bill. 

[tufsu1]

maybe we could actually get his name right?  Its Don Redman

and while I disagree with the bill, folks should know that the X102.9 concert in December was quite loud....from my house a mile away from the park, I could clearly sing along with the last band at almost 11pm on a Sunday night.

lots of ampitheaters in the country deal with this issue....Merriweather Post Pavilion in MD has had resterictions put on it and the ampitheater in Tampa lost a lawsuit and had to install noise walls

[Charles Hunter]

The St. Augustine Amphitheater shuts down promptly at 10:30?  Is surrounded by houses.

[Metro Jacksonville]

Councilman Redman wants Metro Park concerts stopped



Councilman Don Redman's crusade on downtown's public spaces continues.  Following up on his desire to remove benches, tables, and trees from Hemming Plaza, Redman has filed additional legislation to have ticketed events in Metropolitan Park eliminated.  Here is a look at the official legislation recently submitted for council's consideration.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jan-councilman-redman-wants-metro-park-concerts-stopped

[Adam W]

It's only 12 events. They can't possibly run that late at night. How noisy are they for the residents of St Nicholas and San Marco (they may well be noisy for the people on the river - I have no idea)? And although they may be noisy during the hours of the events, is the language used really an issue?

What's the point in having Metro Park if we can't have ticketed events there, really? It's only 12 events. I don't know what the rules are, but I'd hope there are limits to how late the events can run in order to ensure the residents across the river aren't kept up at night. If not, that seems like a more reasonable solution.

[triclops i]

Lets pause all other aspects and look at where it says Fiscal Impact : Undetermined....

If this passes, the fiscal impact will obviously be hundreds of thousands of dollars (at least)  of revenue being fed directly into the St Augustine Amphitheater, and in turn not Jacksonville.

There for, Undetermined is not only a bullshit lie, but also considered "undetermined" because and only because the writers of the legislation did not actually research the Fiscal Impact at all.

And thats just the beginning....