McDonalds coming Downtown

[Miss Fixit]

Lake, who do we contact to discuss this design?  This is directly across the street from Confederate Park and will have a significant impact on that public space.

[thelakelander]

It's "the space inbetween" so it's hard to say.  Probably Gaffney, a DDRB member or the someone in the planning department for starters.

[tufsu1]

the problem is if it meets all standards, Planning Department staff will have to recommend approval.

[thelakelander]

^Bingo.  I don't think there is much one can do since its being designed to standards accepted by COJ.  The overall issue is our zoning code needs to be rewritten.

[JFman00]

Anyone have any good books/websites on alternatives to land-use based/Euclidian zoning?

[JeffreyS]

^Bingo.  I don't think there is much one can do since its being designed to standards accepted by COJ.  The overall issue is our zoning code needs to be rewritten.

I do think we could all write nice letters to the developer and the larger companies. I am and I don't expect much but hey you never know.

[urbanlibertarian]

It looks like demolition of buildings on the site and removal of pavement has begun.

[duvaldude08]

Kool. I saw on the daily record they got the permits a few days ago. Those should be built pretty quick.. Just hate the design. UGH

[PeeJayEss]

Hard to blame them for building as far away as possible from the raceway that is State Street. Would be nice if that at-grade highway was a little more ped friendly, though I understand the alternatives for getting people across DT are not all that attractive.

[thelakelander]

You can't blame the developer for anything. They're developing a site layout that our own public policies have encouraged them to develop.  The structures they are building can be either autocentric or walkable, depending on the site layout.  The zoning at this piece of property encourages autocentric site design.

[ben says]

You can't blame the developer for anything. They're developing a site layout that our own public policies have encouraged them to develop.  The structures they are building can be either autocentric or walkable, depending on the site layout.  The zoning at this piece of property encourages autocentric site design.

+1

[Bill Hoff]

You can't blame the developer for anything. They're developing a site layout that our own public policies have encouraged them to develop.  The structures they are building can be either autocentric or walkable, depending on the site layout.  The zoning at this piece of property encourages autocentric site design.

Design standards stop at the south edge of State Street. The north side of the street is not included....so ultra suburban designs are allowed.

Oops?

[thelakelander]

Yes.  That site is considered no-man's land.

[fsujax]

i am just happy to see it coming. Can't wait for it to open! They have been busy prepping the site for demolition.

[copperfiend]

I'm guessing it will be built very quickly. McDonald's locations seem to go up overnight sometimes.