Report: Weaver trying to sell Jaguars

[thebrokenforum]

as long as a new stadium was on the way

That's just it though...it's not yet. I'm not saying it won't be but so far it's not.

Man, are you guys reading any other boards? People are flipping out. It's like a small part of the population has been waiting for this to happen and are finally venting or something. People are saying some ugly stuff. Reminds me of the people in Frankenstein with pitchforks and torches. 

[copperfiend]

Even if they are sold, I don't see the team moving. Teams move because of bad stadiums and bad stadium leases. The Jaguars have neither.

and bad fan support.  that, the Jags do have.

I guess that depends on your definition of bad fan support. Check the attendance numbers from  2007. The Jags averaged 65k, which was good enough for 23rd in the league. That puts them ahead of other teams with bad fan support such as Dallas, Chicago and Pittsburgh.

[Driven1]

Even if they are sold, I don't see the team moving. Teams move because of bad stadiums and bad stadium leases. The Jaguars have neither.

and bad fan support.  that, the Jags do have.

I guess that depends on your definition of bad fan support. Check the attendance numbers from  2007. The Jags averaged 65k, which was good enough for 23rd in the league. That puts them ahead of other teams with bad fan support such as Dallas, Chicago and Pittsburgh.

Dallas has one hockey team, one NBA team, an NFL team
Chicago has 2 baseball teams, one NBA team, one hockey team and one NFL team
Pittsburgh has one baseball team, one hockey team and one NFL team

Jax has one NFL team

and we can't do better than 23rd?

it's just the mentality around here - that college is better than pros.

[RiversideGator]

Have people forgotten that LA is a terrible NFL market?  They have run off several teams already.  They just dont support teams there.  They think they are too cool for all that - or they dont speak English and are soccer fans.

[Steve]

I think it's just a matter of market percentage.  We have to sell a ticket to one out of every 13 people.  No other sports franchise in america has that high of a ratio.  Admittedly, that's tough.

River - more important for LA than the attendance is the TV deal and sponsorships.  They will sell out with just business tickets.

[thebrokenforum]

it's just the mentality around here - that college is better than pros.

That mentality built a ginormous stadium that would be tough to fill in many NFL cities. If they had a stadium the size of the Colts new stadium, ticket sales would have a waiting list by now.

You know what would be really screwed up? If the rumor is true and they say they're moving to LA and then go on to win the super bowl THIS season. Lol. That could happen and that would be insanity.

[RiversideGator]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the TV deal is a national deal so the specific markets dont matter as long as the ratings are good nationally.  Also, there were a lot of people and corporations in LA before for the Raiders/Rams and there was still not enough support to keep those teams there.

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

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it's just the mentality around here - that college is better than pros.

Now remember that Jax went a VERY long time without any pro team. The Jags are our first (yes, we had the Bulls, but Im talking PRO-NFL). For a VERY long time this City was either Gators or Noles and those allegiances are still in full force (Ive got a UF tag on my Accord right now). Jacksonville LOVES football but old habits die hard. The perfect example is the yearly Fla/Ga game that always breaks attendance and drinking records.
I watch all Jags games and always route for the home team but, admittedly, Ive never paid to see a game in the stadium. Ive depended on family members passing them off or freebies from clients.
The problem with the Jags, and every other event in Jax, is that the marketers and event planners arent doing an effective job of getting the "audience" energized and pumped to contribute and attend.  

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

No way the Jags are leaving! We love football too much.

[thebrokenforum]

Football hasn't been successful in LA due to stadium issues...the coliseum is gigantic and in really, really crappy condition. If a new stadium were built there, it would be privately funded and much, much smaller - to the tune of standard stadium size nowadays - 63k. LA's inability to keep an NFL team there has absolutely nothing to do with anyone speaking english or watching flippin soccer. 

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

Football hasn't been successful in LA due to stadium issues...the coliseum is gigantic and in really, really crappy condition. If a new stadium were built there, it would be privately funded and much, much smaller - to the tune of standard stadium size nowadays - 63k. LA's inability to keep an NFL team there has absolutely nothing to do with anyone speaking english or watching flippin soccer. 

So true! And I laugh continuously at those who say its due to language and soccer. LA doesnt need a NFL team though, theres way too much other crap going on in that godforsaken hellhole (yes, even west hollywood!).

[JaxNole]

So, ummm, who here is a season ticket holder and for how long?

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

For UF or wha?......

[adamh0903]

Jags season Ticker holder for 2 years, family has been since the 1996

[thebrokenforum]

Driven, can you read or do you just really enjoy keeping these things going??

Football hasn't been successful in LA due to stadium issues...the coliseum is gigantic and in really, really crappy condition. If a new stadium were built there, it would be privately funded and much, much smaller - to the tune of standard stadium size nowadays - 63k. LA's inability to keep an NFL team there has absolutely nothing to do with anyone speaking english or watching flippin soccer. 

LA Coliseum = 90,000 seats