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[duvaldude08]

He's the prime example I use when discussing MJD's contract situation - you don't pay people based on past performance (though they may deserve it).

Garrard had the stars align and was rewarded with a hefty, new contract and expectations that he couldn't ever expect to meet.  The same goes for M80, just to a lesser extent - he was and never will be the #1 guy - able to carry the receiving corp on his shoulders, but when positioned correctly, he's a solid WR for any NFL team.

I do agree that we could have handled the situation better - cutting him after announcing him right after the luncheon will never be a good way to conduct business, but that was, IMO, more JDR than anything.  I believe that he basically told Gene that Garrard wasn't going to see the field, and Gene didn't have an option but to dump him - or else they would've owed the entire salary for the year.   I don't know how much his back had to do with anything or if at all.

Yeah Three QB's were benched and cut suddenly under JDR. And its even more sad that WW let it happen ( sorry had to say it) I think one problem under shack harris was that we rewarded people with contracts, before they earned. Garrad had ONE good season and we lost our mind. MJD was only a back up and we ripped up his rookie contract and gave him another one. Why not make people earn their contracts? One year of good play does not constitute an 8 million contract.

[Elwood]

I think Del Rio cut Garrard more out of desperation to somehow save his job than anything else. Hey, it worked for him before (Leftwich for Garrard). Why not try it one more time? Think he knew the axe was coming and figured throwing Garrard away might just save his job. As for his stint in Miami, once the surgery news came out I figured it was only a matter of time before he was gone. Was actually surprised he even made the 53 man roster. I wish David the best. Class guy all the way around.

[duvaldude08]

I still think there was alot of behind the scenes stuff going on that we didn't know about. The team seem to have gotten to the point they didn't like him.  It was rumored he had a hint of arrogance that started to get under everyone skin. Not to mention they didn't name him team captain that year, which was quite odd.  Hes a good guy, but he used to do something's that used to piss me off also. He had a bad tendency of throwing the team under the bus every time something went wrong. For example,  Last preseason he threw a interception against ATL. There was NOBODY on our team in that area of the field at all. After the game he said, " yeah yeah man they should have caught that." I think those type of things became a problem in the locker room. One thing I give Gabbert, if the receiver does miss the ball, he takes FULL responsibility for it because he is the QB and team leader. Like the deep pass on last week. Robinson clearly slowed down and looked up in the air, which caused him to miss the catch. Gabbert took 100% accountability for it.

[I-10east]

It's official, the CAR at TB game is blacked out at Raymond James, even WITH the capacity bailout (that Jax will not need BTW). Talk about a franchise that's at rock bottom right now; So the complacent "TB will never move because the Super Bowl in Ray J" mentality will only go so far, just ask Cleveland, Baltimore, and Houston.

[duvaldude08]

I-10,

Im sure you fired up about Adrian Peterson's comments that the Jags would be "terrible" without MJD. I guess his little running back butt buddy is upset because we didnt give MJD a new contract. If not Im not mistaken, the vikings were terrible with Adrian Peterson, and even worse without him. So why is the pot calling the kettle black.? It cracks me up when a member from one bad team trys to talk shit about another bad team. If anything we need to be supporting each other. Not to mention that we have improved all the way around and they are the exact same team from last season. LOL I hope the bastard blows his another knee out, fucking turd.

[duvaldude08]

It's official, the CAR at TB game is blacked out at Raymond James, even WITH the capacity bailout (that Jax will not need BTW). Talk about a franchise that's at rock bottom right now; So the complacent "TB will never move because the Super Bowl in Ray J" mentality will only go so far, just ask Cleveland, Baltimore, and Houston.

I-10 this is why I no longer get upset about the "media". The truth always comes out in the end. We know that we had one bad year of ticket sales and thats all that matters. You see the media does not make a big deal about Tampa's blackouts because they are not Jacksonville. We are, and will always be a target for the media. I just chuckle now and click to the next article when I read something inaccurate about the Jags.

[mtraininjax]

You see the media does not make a big deal about Tampa's blackouts because they are not Jacksonville.

Apples and Oranges here, we are the 50th largest media market in the United States, shocking I know, places in the US without a NFL team??? Tampa/St. Pete was listed as the 14th largest media market. So the Bucs suck at selling tickets, that stadium is a joke compared to ours. The NFL is all about TV money and until we lift our profile with more people, Tampa and Miamis of the world can thumb their nose at us and we have to deal with it.

The NFL stands for MONEY and lots of it. TV rules the NFL.

[I-10east]

I-10,

Im sure you fired up about Adrian Peterson's comments that the Jags would be "terrible" without MJD. I guess his little running back butt buddy is upset because we didnt give MJD a new contract.

That will be some nice bulletin board material for our defense esp the LBs. We will see how terrible the Jags are when we go up there to Minny, and mop the field with the Vikequeens.  I cannot wait, Minnesota will not know what hit them.

[I-10east]

The NFL is all about TV money and until we lift our profile with more people, Tampa and Miamis of the world can thumb their nose at us and we have to deal with it.

The NFL stands for MONEY and lots of it. TV rules the NFL.

I don't care if you're the 14th largest market, NYC or whatever; You can't 'thumb your nose' at a city that (as of recent history) vastly, and consistently outsells you. I telling you, keep on falling for the 'superior media market' crap, and guess what, there's a city over in the Pacific Time zone has a vastly far superior media market than the metropolis that is Tampa. You said that the NFL is all about money, you're right, and the Glazers aren't getting their excepted return on the investment with 40Kish in the seats time after time. Don't think that the Buccaneers are above a possible relocation, with that consistent paltry attendance. I agree with you about Ray J, I thought that I was the only one to think that stadium is overrated, no dump by no means, but not the grand palace that everyone makes it out to be.

[duvaldude08]

You see the media does not make a big deal about Tampa's blackouts because they are not Jacksonville.

Apples and Oranges here, we are the 50th largest media market in the United States, shocking I know, places in the US without a NFL team??? Tampa/St. Pete was listed as the 14th largest media market. So the Bucs suck at selling tickets, that stadium is a joke compared to ours. The NFL is all about TV money and until we lift our profile with more people, Tampa and Miamis of the world can thumb their nose at us and we have to deal with it.

The NFL stands for MONEY and lots of it. TV rules the NFL.

yup

[BridgeTroll]

Rumors of the Packers demise were... premature.

Da Bears... are who we THOUGHT they were...

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Rumors of the Packers demise were... premature.

Da Bears... are who we THOUGHT they were...

Gratuitous Clip....

http://www.youtube.com/v/m_N1OjGhIFc?

[duvaldude08]

I had to laugh at this one. Michael Turner of the Falcons arrested for a DUI after MNF? He got arrested like 2 hours after the game! How in the bloody hell did he get THAT drunk THAT fast? He had to start drinking at half time or something! He must be able to put down some sauce! 

[thelakelander]

WOW, the Packers just got robbed by the replacement refs.  Last play of the game they miss an offensive pass interference call, Green Bay's DB intercepts the ball in the end zone and they give the Seahawks the game winning touchdown.  I don't think I've ever seen something like this before.

[Steve_Lovett]

Ennis - It wasn't just the last play, but the last play was emblematic of the whole game. There was a phantom pass interference call earlier... And don't forget the '05 Super Bowl when the Seahawks were robbed by the officials vs the Steelers.

It's an imperfect game...