Tri-Rail's ridership continues to rise

Started by thelakelander, May 02, 2008, 09:09:35 AM

tufsu1

Quote from: simms3 on July 10, 2012, 11:27:18 PM
the 9:00 apparently, but it was late.  In nowhere is the schedule every 5-10 minutes.  10-15 minutes tops if it obeys its schedule, which while Tri-Rail did for me, MetroRail definitely did not.

my bad...meant to type 10-15 minutes...and as noted, the delays may have been caused by ongoing track work.

tufsu1

Quote from: thelakelander on July 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
I'm just wondering but what's the average revenue to expense ratio for a public transit system like commuter rail, local bus, light rail, heavy rail, etc.?  I doubt most, if any, break even or recover half of their costs at the fare box.

generally bus systems get about 20-25% recovery from the fare box....rail systems are a bit higher and average in the 40-50% range...this doesn't include other forms of revenue (such as ad sales).

Ocklawaha

Quote from: tufsu1 on July 11, 2012, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
I'm just wondering but what's the average revenue to expense ratio for a public transit system like commuter rail, local bus, light rail, heavy rail, etc.?  I doubt most, if any, break even or recover half of their costs at the fare box.

generally bus systems get about 20-25% recovery from the fare box....rail systems are a bit higher and average in the 40-50% range...this doesn't include other forms of revenue (such as ad sales).

Agree, TUFSU1. Seattle is a great example of the difference in running a balanced system of multiple modes IE: bus, BRT 'Rapid Ride', water, monorail, streetcar, light rail and corridor rail services... The result? King County Transit recovers 75% of it's operating expenses through the fare box.

See: http://www.scribd.com/doc/54306983/2011-April-Private-Public-Partnership-Model-in-Integrating-ODA-Developed-LRT1and-BOT-Developed-MRT3-Projects-China-Final2

simms3

Quote from: tufsu1 on July 11, 2012, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on July 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM
I'm just wondering but what's the average revenue to expense ratio for a public transit system like commuter rail, local bus, light rail, heavy rail, etc.?  I doubt most, if any, break even or recover half of their costs at the fare box.

generally bus systems get about 20-25% recovery from the fare box....rail systems are a bit higher and average in the 40-50% range...this doesn't include other forms of revenue (such as ad sales).

On that note Miami's metrorail recovered 16% according to one of my links above (taken from "official" sources).  Uh oh.  They need to do something about their system.  It didn't leave a good impression on me, that's for sure (and it wasn't the older cars bc I don't mind CTA or SEPTA or MBTA).
Bothering locals and trolling boards since 2005

tufsu1

Miami Metrorail cars are virtually identical to (and ordered at the same time) as Baltimore Metro and Atlanta MARTA