Welfare Parasites

[finehoe]

Half of US social program recipients believe they "have not used a government social program"



"Reconstituting the Submerged State: The Challenges of Social Policy Reform in the Obama Era," a paper by Cornell's Clinton Rossiter Professor of American Institutions Suzanne Mettler features this remarkable chart showing that about half of American social program beneficiaries believe that they "have not used a government social program." It's the "Keep your government hands off my Medicare" phenomena writ large: a society of people who subsist on mutual aid and redistributive policies who've been conned (and conned themselves) into thinking that they are rugged individualists and that everyone else is a parasite.

[fsquid]

25% of those on food stamps don't think they are using a government program?  Probably time to remove them from the gene pool.

[fsquid]

would certainly thin out them and the people on the other side of the spectrum that needs to Government to tell them what to do.  Probably be a more efficient country that way.

[Bridges]

Just ask Craig T. Nelson.  He's been on food stamps and welfare, and did anyone help him out?

http://youtu.be/yTwpBLzxe4U

[BridgeTroll]

Do you think that there are a lot of flaming liberals getting GI benefits and help from the VA?

Whether liberal or not these benefits would be compensation for services rendered...

[JeffreyS]

25% of those on food stamps don't think they are using a government program?  Probably time to remove them from the gene pool.

That would thin out the ranks of the Tea Party pretty drastically, wouldn't it?

Perhaps if we went to a Medicare for all model we could just fool these people that it is not Government.

[finehoe]

Whether liberal or not these benefits would be compensation for services rendered...

Similar to the compensation for services rendered benefits negotiated by public sector unions for themselves, right?

[Jameson]

That would thin out the ranks of the Tea Party pretty drastically, wouldn't it?

Speaking of the Tea Party, here's a picture of the Messiah in 1997 leading a parade on July 4th in Colonial gear and a Gadsden flag behind him. Since the NAACP considers people who wear COLONIAL gear to be "racist", is the President also a "racist"?




I don't have a problem with the Tea Party if they misspell a word here or there (and it's then amplified by the liberal MSM to distract away from their message). Their message is clear:

- Less government intrusion on our constitutional rights.
- Less government dependency
- More personal responsibility
- Lower taxes

Much better than the "Occupy" clowns who are drains on our society:

* Baxter also “suggested getting tacks that they could throw out of the back of the car if they get in a chase.” This getaway tactic was last successfully used in a Batman episode from 1967.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/fbi-informant-infiltrated-occupy-movement-758348

[BridgeTroll]

Whether liberal or not these benefits would be compensation for services rendered...

Similar to the compensation for services rendered benefits negotiated by public sector unions for themselves, right?

Wrong.  I am quite certain military members are unable to negotiate for pay, benefits, or anything else. 

[Traveller]

When they refer to 529 plans, do they mean the investment kind as well, or just the pre-paid kind?  If the former is a government social program, does that mean all 401(a) plans, 401(k) plans, IRAs, Roth IRAs, cafeteria plans, FSAs, and HSAs are government social programs as well?

[fsquid]

would certainly thin out them and the people on the other side of the spectrum that needs to Government to tell them what to do.  Probably be a more efficient country that way.

thinning out the people who deny that they are using a government program but they actually are would affect people who use and approve of government programs how?

huh?

Do you think that there are a lot of flaming liberals getting GI benefits and help from the VA?

Or were you just responding before you could think the comment out?

It was tongue in cheek as I don't advocate the killing of anyone no matter how out of touch with reality they may be.  I do find it funny that you actually have to go to a government office to apply for food stamps, but 25% still don't think they are on the company dole.

[Bridges]

I don't have a problem with the Tea Party if they misspell a word here or there (and it's then amplified by the liberal MSM to distract away from their message). Their message is clear:

- Less government intrusion on our constitutional rights.
- Less government dependency
- More personal responsibility
- Lower taxes

The humor of the situation isn't the misspelling of the signs (although it greatly adds to it), it's the message of the signs....Which also happens to be the basis for this thread.

[fsquid]

I also can't say I've ever seen the tax deductions and credits defined as a social program before either.

[finehoe]

I am quite certain military members are unable to negotiate for pay, benefits, or anything else.

So you're saying that if the government arbitrarily grants you benefits it is okay, but if you negotiate with the government on what those benefits should be, then its not okay.  I see.

[finehoe]

I also can't say I've ever seen the tax deductions and credits defined as a social program before either.

Tax expenditures that seek to promote social goals are by definition social benefit programs. Your claim reveals the very sort of confusion that the respondants demonstrate in this study. The choice to spend a tax dollar or to forgo the collection of that dollar is different only in the perceived nature of the policy tool. The confusion grows when people accept and repeat myths about how Social Security isn't a government social program because we "pay into the system," which is ultimately false for reasons that should be crystal clear.