Put sex orientation bill on November ballot, Jacksonville councilman says

Started by Tacachale, May 16, 2012, 04:55:06 PM

Tacachale

This is utterly sad - an elected legislator trying to get out of voting on legislation.

This kind of thing shows you where we're at on a very important issue. We can't ignore this.

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Submitted by Steve Patterson on May 16, 2012 - 4:03pm PolitiJax

Jacksonville City Councilman Doyle Carter says he wants a referendum held this fall on legislation to ban discrimination based on sexual preference.

"I just think it's an important issue and the citizens of the city should vote on it, not 19 people," Carter said, referring to the council.

He said he plans to offer substitute legislation calling for a November referendum when the council Committee on Recreation, Community Development, Public Health and Safety meets in early June.

If he's successful, Carter's plan would replace a bill that Councilman Warren Jones introduced last week to expand the city's human rights ordinance to include sexual orientation or sexual identity.

The human rights ordinance prevents discrimination in hiring, promotions, and access to housing and public accommodations like restaurants and hotels.

Carter said the November general election would become a default date for the referendum because issues for the fall primary have to be filed with the elections office in early June, before the full council is scheduled to act on the legislation.

He said the general election, which traditionally has high turnout levels, seemed to him a better time to tackle the question anyway.
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/steve-patterson/2012-05-16/put-sex-orientation-bill-november-ballot-jacksonville
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

WmNussbaum

While we're at it, might as well put school integration on the ballot too.

Councilman Carter, pick up a dictionary and look up the word "leadership,"

Ajax

Maybe one of our intrepid local reporters could just ask Mr. Carter where he stands on the issue.  Just so, you know, it doesn't look like he's trying to avoid taking a position.   :D

Jimmy

Since this isn't a charter amendment or a tax issue, it doesn't belong on the November ballot.

The City's ordinance code, which is where the human rights provisions exist, can't be amended by referendum. 

finehoe

Quote from: Jimmy on May 16, 2012, 06:25:26 PM
The City's ordinance code, which is where the human rights provisions exist, can't be amended by referendum.

Telling that our esteemed Councilman doesn't seem to know this.

Ralph W

Hey, take it easy on the poor boy. He's new at this job and OJT's a bitch.

Anti redneck

If you ask me, it sounds like an attempt to try and keep the issue off the table.

Why is gay rights bad again?

Garden guy

Quote from: Anti redneck on May 17, 2012, 03:52:22 AM
If you ask me, it sounds like an attempt to try and keep the issue off the table.

Why is gay rights bad again?
Its bad to many  of the councilmen...especially the southern baptist ones ...and      we all know they have a special seat at the hand of a god somwhere.


urbaknight

Maybe he's implying that council won't or can't pass the bill themselves.

This good ol boy network here in JAX needs to be brought down and completely disassembled!

Springfield Chicken

I'm confused.  Is the Councilman suggesting that if the majority of voters believe it's okay to do something morally wrong then that makes it okay?  Did he use the same logic in the '60's when segregation was the issue?  If, back then, there was a vote and the majority of Jacksonville wanted to discriminate against blacks then he would have supported their decision?

duvaldude08

They are a bunch of cowards. Again a big city that can deal with "big" city issues. And that Kim Daniels is an absolute nutcase. This has nothing to do with religion. This has to do with equal treatment. Nowhere does the bible state that homosexuals should be outcast of society.
Jaguars 2.0

finehoe

Quote from: duvaldude08 on May 17, 2012, 01:15:25 PM
Nowhere does the bible state that homosexuals should be outcast of society.

And even if it did, we base our laws on the Constitution, not the Bible.

WmNussbaum

It's nice that we've all - mostly all - dissed this stupid idea, but what would count for something is if some of us would show up at the next Council meeting and say so into the record. It doubtful if Carter or many of the Councilmembers read this forum or care what a bunch of folks say that is not really public, i.e., no press around to report to the city at large.

Show up and sound off!

Tacachale

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?