DVI being bullish about tearing down old court for convention center

[Kaiser Soze]

It makes no sense to keep either of these buildings. They are not historic. They are  ugly eyesores.  Why not pay now to get rid of them both and the new convention center will not have to wait for any demo work to begin? They Hyatt has almost 1,000 rooms. They do not need the annex for anything like that. They need the room for a public/pprivate partnership of a new Convention Center. Having a big ugly buidling in the way does not help anything. In this one case only, tearing them down does  make sense.

huh?

Despite the fact that they symbolize what would be Haydon Burns most significantly damaging effect on downtown, I think they are iconic, beautiful buildings. 

And of course its well known that I think a Convention Center is a boondoggle without the leadership in place trained to develop and nurture specific conventions.  I think ChrisW made the clear point that Convention Centers are probably what finally killed downtown.

But such considerations aside, They would make really awesome spaces for urban pioneers, business incubators, gallery and performance spaces.

Ive always loved the use of aggregates in the buildings, all the nit picky crafstmanship that went into creating the place, and the architecture is marvelous.

Wait, are people on here really talking about preserving that old POS courthouse?

um. yeah.  they sure are.

People said the same thing about Klutho's buildings while they bulldozed and dynamited the shit out of them.

Why do you ask?

Klutho's buildings were beautiful.  Far different from the courthouse.  Age ain't going to change the fact that the courthouse is devoid of anything architecturally interesting (forgive me baked tiles).  Its a big ugly box building sitting on very valuable property. 

Then again, I may simply be expressing years of repressed feelings due to three failed marriages (never understood why you need to pay the state for a marriage license if a few short sentences are enough for Jesus) and a few activities that the State of Florida frowned upon.

[Tacachale]

If we can replace either or both buildings with something better, I say dynamite away. However, I'm not okay with just demolishing them without any firm plans for the sites whatsoever. Why even waste the money? Just think ahead a few steps, it's not that hard.

[BridgeTroll]

If we can replace either or both buildings with something better, I say dynamite away. However, I'm not okay with just demolishing them without any firm plans for the sites whatsoever. Why even waste the money? Just think ahead a few steps, it's not that hard.

Agree...

[Kaiser Soze]

If we can replace either or both buildings with something better, I say dynamite away. However, I'm not okay with just demolishing them without any firm plans for the sites whatsoever. Why even waste the money? Just think ahead a few steps, it's not that hard.

Why waste the money on mothballing?

[Tacachale]

^Why waste the money on demolition if there's no plan and an outside possibility that the buildings, or elements of them, can be used in a future project?

[Kaiser Soze]

^Why waste the money on demolition if there's no plan and an outside possibility that the buildings, or elements of them, can be used in a future project?

Because no "element" of either of those buildings will be reused.  We all know that.

[Kaiser Soze]

Eh, not sure the '70s will ever be considered as contributing anything other than ugly postmodern architecture, Saturday Nigh Fever, and low-grade cocaine.  The '80s offered considerable advancement in all the above, but most importantly high grade yayo and rock ballads.

[fieldafm]

Eh, not sure the '70s will ever be considered as contributing anything other than ugly postmodern architecture, Saturday Nigh Fever, and low-grade cocaine.  The '80s offered considerable advancement in all the above, but most importantly high grade yayo and rock ballads.

LOL, I like this guy!

[Kaiser Soze]

But the buildings in question are from the 60s

Even worse.  Damn hippies.

[fieldafm]

Blinded by the light...

Dressed up like a dude, another roller in the night
Wrapped up like a douche, I knew their owner every night.
Racked up like a douche, another lover in the night.
Wake up like a douche, or a rubber in the night.
Torn up like a douche, another stoner in the night.
Wrap up the old deuce, a Nutter Butter in the night.
Wrapped up like a douche, another rumor in the night.

[RiversideLoki]

Blinded by the light...

Dressed up like a dude, another roller in the night
Wrapped up like a douche, I knew their owner every night.
Racked up like a douche, another lover in the night.
Wake up like a douche, or a rubber in the night.
Torn up like a douche, another stoner in the night.
Wrap up the old deuce, a Nutter Butter in the night.
Wrapped up like a douche, another rumor in the night.

Wait, are you trying to tell me those aren't the lyrics?

[Dog Walker]

Sigh!  Getting old.  I remember the excitement when the new courthouse and city hall were built, replacing the abandoned warehouses and falling docks that were there.  The land was worthless then and those buildings cleaned up a mess.

The buildings themselves are sort of bland, but we do not need another convention center.  We have one too many now.

[Seraphs]

It makes good sense to have an action plan in place before swinging the wrecking ball.  This is simply good logic.

[Dashing Dan]

Blinded by the light...

Dressed up like a dude, another roller in the night
Wrapped up like a douche, I knew their owner every night.
Racked up like a douche, another lover in the night.
Wake up like a douche, or a rubber in the night.
Torn up like a douche, another stoner in the night.
Wrap up the old deuce, a Nutter Butter in the night.
Wrapped up like a douche, another rumor in the night.

Wait, are you trying to tell me those aren't the lyrics?

It's actually "Revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night."

The line describes how Bruce Springsteen felt about breaking out as a musical performer.  The "deuce" is a '32 Ford hot rod, same as in "Little Deuce Coupe".

[I-10east]

Duval County Courthouse Annex? JK.