Goodell: The NFL would probably expand to 34 if LA gets team

Started by duvaldude08, February 03, 2012, 01:09:13 AM

Ocklawaha

Quote from: I-10east on February 03, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
The NFL welcomes the 'Los Angeles Tar Pits' and the 'San Antonio Saguaros' as the 33rd and 34th franchises....

Nope, Saguaro's are not native to the Chihuahuan Desert of west Texas. The saguaro cactus (Carnegiea gigantea) is one of the defining plants of the Sonoran Desert, IE: The State's of Sonora, and Arizona.  Saguaros are found exclusively in the Sonoran Desert, think Phoenix. LOL

While I know that San Antonio has long dreamed of a team, Texas already has 2 well supported teams. If the NFL really desires to sell out stadiums I'd suggest someplace like Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, etc.. When your the only game in the territory you get a lot more attention.

OCKLAWAHA

I-10east

^^^Haha, I knew that someone was gonna go there concerning the saguaros. You're right Ock, although to the average American, all over the Southwestern US is filled with tall Saguaros LOL. I saw one HUGE saguaro at Phoenix's airport just outside of the glass. Although you can play that 'non-indigenous' game with just about every team; Look no further than the Jacksonville Jaguars; The worst gotta be the Utah Jazz, which of course was the New Orleans Jazz.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 03, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on February 03, 2012, 11:53:49 AM
I'm not really up to date on NFL stadium requirements.

Is Everbank good for another decade or so?

I think with occasional upgrades to things like the sound system, we could wring well over another 10 years out of it.  Vic Ketchman suggested a few times that it ought to survive until the end of our lease term.

Of course, it's not always necessary to build a new stadium either; you can go the substantial-upgrade route like Soldier Field and Arrowhead did.

I think as long as we continue to keep the stadium up to date, we will be fine. Its already been renovated twice since its exsistance, and Khan also has his plans in mind. Luckily, the new CBA has the "new stadium fund", so all would not be lost if we had to address the stadium issue in the next 20 years.
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Ocklawaha

Quote from: I-10east on February 04, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
^^^Haha, I knew that someone was gonna go there concerning the saguaros. You're right Ock, although to the average American, all over the Southwestern US is filled with tall Saguaros LOL. I saw one HUGE saguaro at Phoenix's airport just outside of the glass. Although you can play that 'non-indigenous' game with just about every team; Look no further than the Jacksonville Jaguars; The worst gotta be the Utah Jazz, which of course was the New Orleans Jazz.

Your right I-10east, but did you know Jacksonville DOES have a unique Jaguar connection? Way back in the dawn of the 20Th century, movie makers in Jacksonville were filming a jungle movie and needed a Jaguar. More movies = more animals. BINGO! We were on our way to having a municipal zoo. What turned out to be our little pair of Jaguars are largely considered today the grand parents of virtually EVERY Jaguar in zoo's throughout the nation. Jacksonville really was/is Jaguar Central.

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: Ocklawaha on February 04, 2012, 10:55:10 AM

Your right I-10east, but did you know Jacksonville DOES have a unique Jaguar connection? Way back in the dawn of the 20Th century, movie makers in Jacksonville were filming a jungle movie and needed a Jaguar. More movies = more animals. BINGO! We were on our way to having a municipal zoo. What turned out to be our little pair of Jaguars are largely considered today the grand parents of virtually EVERY Jaguar in zoo's throughout the nation. Jacksonville really was/is Jaguar Central.

There was one male black jaguar in particular who was the father to many black jaguars in zoos around the country but I can't remember his name (I think it started with a Z).  The black and tawny jaguars at the zoo really are impressive to see, and it's only fitting that the Weaver Foundation paid for such a remarkable habitat for them.
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Nightman_Cometh

LA will obviously get one team.

San Antonio could support a team, the Roadrunners of UTSA just finished up their first year of football (they'll move up to D-I next year) but their first home game there were 56,000 people, and they averaged 35,000+ plus all year.  This was a 4-6 team. Will San Antonio get a team?  I dont think so because the Cowboys have a huge footprint in the city, and do training camp at the Alamodome also. 

Las Vegas still doesnt have any pro sports teams because every commissioner ever has been worried with the legal gambling aspect there. 

Salt Lake City, Portland, Omaha, Norfolk/Hampton Roads Area, any other guesses?

mtraininjax

I like the idea of new teams going to either Texas or Florida, in addition to L.A. Look at the population shifts taking a large part of the decision.
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tufsu1

well if pop. shift is the key, then Salt Lake City would make more sense than another team in Florida

Ocklawaha

Quote from: mtraininjax on February 05, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
I like the idea of new teams going to either Texas or Florida, in addition to L.A. Look at the population shifts taking a large part of the decision.

Las Vegas, San Antonio, Salt Lake City, Portland, Omaha, Norfolk/Hampton Roads Area, Memphis, Birmingham. But knowing the history of the league, they'll probably put a team in Los Angeles, and another Santa Ana! Looking at the possibles....

Las Vegas - WISE GUYS

San Antonio - They'd better watch Austin

Salt Lake City - A team with divine gifts?

Portland - You better plan on a dome, or they have to develop uniforms with pop-up umbrellas.

Omaha - The Butchers? Would they plan in "The Slaughterhouse?" Dream on... not a chance.

Oklahoma City - ANYTHING YOU WANT TO CALL THEM BUT ANOTHER BUNCH OF DAMN SOONERS! (GO OSU!)

Norfolk - You really wouldn't like the name the Navy has for it....

Memphis - They're trying to settle a score with Nashville

Birmingham - This one could easily be a sleeper, better watch the back door as Bama LOVES football.

I agree with mtrainjax, if the league has any sense of logic, my money is on Booger Hollow Arkansas, unless Chigger Hollow gets their first.



duvaldude08

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 05, 2012, 10:24:14 PM
well if pop. shift is the key, then Salt Lake City would make more sense than another team in Florida

Yeah Florida can not support another team. We are struggling to support the three we have already.
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Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: Nightman_Cometh on February 04, 2012, 03:25:59 PM
LA will obviously get one team.

San Antonio could support a team, the Roadrunners of UTSA just finished up their first year of football (they'll move up to D-I next year) but their first home game there were 56,000 people, and they averaged 35,000+ plus all year.  This was a 4-6 team. Will San Antonio get a team?  I dont think so because the Cowboys have a huge footprint in the city, and do training camp at the Alamodome also. 

Las Vegas still doesnt have any pro sports teams because every commissioner ever has been worried with the legal gambling aspect there. 

Salt Lake City, Portland, Omaha, Norfolk/Hampton Roads Area, any other guesses?

I like the profile name.

I live in Hampton Roads, and while we have the population to support a pro team I just don't see it happening.  Having a huge body of water cutting the area in two is one major obstacle - if there's a substantial event on the other side of the water, the traffic jams are endless.  The other is that the cities here are highly competitive with each other and I just can't see them ever agreeing on where to construct an arena or stadium.
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thelakelander

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Ocklawaha

Quote from: thelakelander on February 06, 2012, 09:06:43 AM
Sacramento, Louisville?

I was thinking about those too, Sacramento would be a ideal location for a team but if the Oakland Nomads stay put that would mean having 3 teams very close together, Oakland, San Francisco, Sacramento. So I doubt Sacramento would get the nod.

Louisville is a whole different idea, assuming their metro, just a tad smaller then ours, could support the team. There is something gladiatorial about "my city - vs - your city" in the NFL. So putting a team in a State without a team... Utah, Kentucky, Oregon, gives ownership to everyone in the state.

I-10east

Quote from: Ocklawaha on February 05, 2012, 10:36:23 PM
Las Vegas - WISE GUYS

or how bout the Las Vegas Pit Bosses. Maybe that's too shysty sounding. :)

LV sounds like an obvious choice with it's growth and all, but all of that red tape with the state concerning the gambling seems to hold them back from getting a pro team.