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Iran... What will we do?

Started by BridgeTroll, November 03, 2011, 03:26:55 PM

JeffreyS

Lenny Smash

finehoe

Quote from: Dog Walker on February 03, 2012, 10:20:07 AM
With who? 

Turkey, perhaps?

QuoteIran will bomb Turkey if the U.S. or Israel tries to destroy its nuclear installations, a senior military commander warned today.

General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the aerospace division of the powerful Revolutionary Guard, threatened to target Nato's missile defence shield in the neighbouring country.

The system which Turkey only agreed to install in September, is designed to prevent Iranian missile attacks on Israel.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066959/Iran-threatens-bomb-Turkey-U-S-Israel-attack-nuclear-installations.html#ixzz1lKpk9uHE

Turkey being a member of NATO, it could easily spin out of control.

Doctor_K

Quote from: finehoe on February 03, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
Quote from: Dog Walker on February 03, 2012, 10:20:07 AM
With who? 

Turkey, perhaps?

QuoteIran will bomb Turkey if the U.S. or Israel tries to destroy its nuclear installations, a senior military commander warned today.

General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the aerospace division of the powerful Revolutionary Guard, threatened to target Nato's missile defence shield in the neighbouring country.

The system which Turkey only agreed to install in September, is designed to prevent Iranian missile attacks on Israel.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066959/Iran-threatens-bomb-Turkey-U-S-Israel-attack-nuclear-installations.html#ixzz1lKpk9uHE

Turkey being a member of NATO, it could easily spin out of control.

Indeed.  "An attack against one is an attack against all," states one of the clauses of the NATO alliance (see 9/11 for that precedent). 

Iran and the Mullahs are not stupid enough to instigate all-out war with NATO.  And IMO, Russia and China, while generally more supportive of Iran than 'the West,' won't want to get involved in a fur-ball against NATO either.
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finehoe

Quote from: Doctor_K on February 03, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
Iran and the Mullahs are not stupid enough to instigate all-out war with NATO.

Hey, when God is on your side, no task is too big.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: Dog Walker on February 03, 2012, 10:20:07 AM
"fear of a broader Middle East War"

With who?  Egypt?  Tunisia? Lybia?  Syria?  Don't think so.  They are having some internal problems right now.

Saudi Arabia has already signaled that they would give Israel overflight rights to reach Iran.  If Iran tried to strike back at Israel, the well-trained and well equipped Saudi Air Force would be involved against them.

Jordon doesn't have the capability or the will.

There is probably no safer time for Israel to strike than now and most of the Arab states would quietly applaud.

How about an attack on Iraq?  The oilfields of Kuwait and Saudi are prime targets for Iranian missiles or sabotage.  Qatar, Oman, and UAE are no friends of the Iranians.
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Dog Walker

The Arabs and Turks have a couple of thousand years of bad history with the Persians and memories run very long in that part of the world.  The old feud even predates Islam.
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finehoe

Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 03, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
How about an attack on Iraq? 

Nouri al-Maliki is already an Iranian puppet, so what would they have to gain by that?

BridgeTroll

Quote from: finehoe on February 03, 2012, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 03, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
How about an attack on Iraq? 

Nouri al-Maliki is already an Iranian puppet, so what would they have to gain by that?

Annexation of the part of Iraq that they have been coveted for decades.  The shia majority eastern part and of course the oilfields...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

finehoe

Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 03, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
Annexation of the part of Iraq that they have been coveted for decades.  The shia majority eastern part and of course the oilfields...

Why bother attacking them when they already control the Prime Minister. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/27/iraq-sanctions-iran-ineffective

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/31/iraq_oil_crude_awakening

BridgeTroll

Quote from: finehoe on February 03, 2012, 02:39:41 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 03, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
Annexation of the part of Iraq that they have been coveted for decades.  The shia majority eastern part and of course the oilfields...

Why bother attacking them when they already control the Prime Minister. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/27/iraq-sanctions-iran-ineffective

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/31/iraq_oil_crude_awakening

It really is all speculation... unless you can fathom what Acmadenijad or the mullahs are thinking we kind of need to prepare for anything that may happen.  Attacking oilfields is a given...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

urbanlibertarian

I don't think Turkey will tolerate Iran controlling the Kurdish part of northern Iraq which I believe has the most oil fields.  They fear the unification of those Kurds with the ones in eastern Turkey.
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JeffreyS

I rail against our involvement in Iraq and talk about reducing military spending but I just watched a child running from Syrian sniper fire on Anderson Cooper and I want their leaders blood.

Perhaps sanity will return in the morning but maybe not.
Lenny Smash

buckethead

Such imagery is fed to us when we gots us some invadin' to do.

Snipers are WMD.

We must invade, "for the children".

ben says

Quote from: JeffreyS on February 15, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
I rail against our involvement in Iraq and talk about reducing military spending but I just watched a child running from Syrian sniper fire on Anderson Cooper and I want their leaders blood.

Perhaps sanity will return in the morning but maybe not.

Guess who sold the guns, ammo, and grenades used in Syria? You guessed right: America. We talk the talk, but when it comes down to it, we literally supply them with the tools they need to repress their own people.

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buckethead

And then we subvert the powerbase, initiate a populist (CIA) uprising, and arm them.

War and fiat currency... It what's for dinner.